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From: Rob Wilkens <robw@optonline.net>
To: Marcelo Pacheco <marcelo@macp.eti.br>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: any chance of 2.6.0-test*?
Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 22:37:48 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1042429068.871.64.camel@RobsPC.RobertWilkens.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3E2229AC.3050501@macp.eti.br>

On Sun, 2003-01-12 at 21:51, Marcelo Pacheco wrote:
> No Rob, most people don't bother responding because they read the FAQ 
> for the list and they realize that this is waste of bandwidth of a lot 
> of people that are important to Linux. You're wasting their times and 
> this is why this should stop NOW.

Actually, we were talking in private e-mail, so if we were discussing
the FAQ, you would've continued this there, but since you've decided to
bring this discussion out here, I'll continue it here for now..

I have unlimitted bandwidth, as do many others.  IF they don't they
shouldn't subscribe to this list, they should subscribe to the newsgroup
and pick-and-choose by sbject/thread.

> You're soo arrogant you don't want to see how much YOU'RE wrong ?

I'm perfectly willing to see how much I'm wrong.  No one has yet shown
me that I'm wrong, though.  I'd be perfectly willing to see it if it
were shown.

> See, I'm a computer geek that started at 11, that learned everything 

I have a head start on you then, I started around age 8.  TI-99/4A & the
BASIC programming language back then (I even had a voice box for the
computer so I was writing programs that could talk which I thought was
the coolest thing.)  Moved on to the Commodore 64, 128, then moved into
the PC world kind of late, in 1990 I bought an XT 10MHz machine that
happenned to work with the commodore 128 monitor, and since then have
incrementally upgrade part by part to my current machine (haven't
upgraded in three years).

> mind to the fact that you were brainwashed, and the fact that they 
> brainwash so many people that aren't smart enough to question them, that 
> everything is taken at face value.

If I'm questioning people on this list, what makes you think I wasn't
smart enough to question them then??  Think about that one for a second?

> And Linux is not a hobbist thing anymore. From the point a lot of people 
> trust their businesses to Linux like I do everyday (I'm MIS with about 
> 12 Penguins, with about 30 more Microshits to be converted to Penguins), 

Serverwise or backofficewise, penguins have their place.  On the
desktop, penguins have to learn to adapt to a different climate.  That's
off topic for the kernel list though.

> then you should respect people here. Me and I'm sure a lot others read 
> this list daily, and they don't want to spend their time on this thread. 

Then don't read it, skip over to the next message and move on with
life.  As someone else put it, life is too short.

> I apreciate very much the work of everybody here, considering that they 
> could probably make a hell of a lot more money through other ways, but 
> they decided to go the open source way, and the whole world's society is 
> benefiting from their work, instead of mostly benefiting big, greedy 
> companies like microshit.

Few would be doing it if there weren't SOME benefit for themselves. 
That benefit _may_ be a better system for themselves.. Some may be the
intellectual satisfaction of a job well done.. Some may work for
companies like red hat or suse.. Some may work for companies that want
to replace old UNIX systems with cheaper PC hardware that does the same
thing...  Everyone has a motivating factor.

> By the way, you're not being paid my Microshit or other companies that 
> have a lot to benefit from stalling Linux development to troll this 
> list, aren't you ?

The answer to this is that I'm not in any way shape or form employed by
any company what so ever at present.  I'm considering part time work,
but will not say more about that because the last time I mentioned
something about an employer on a list where people thought I was a troll
(alt.support.depression.manic around 2000 when I was unmedicated) they
were sending faxes and calling the office where I worked at with
complaints.  I'd rather not forewarn any employer that I'm a little
off-center, though I guess it wouldn't hurt my chances of eventually
getting on social security disability which would cover my bills.

-Rob


  reply	other threads:[~2003-01-13  3:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 201+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-01-10 16:10 any chance of 2.6.0-test*? William Lee Irwin III
2003-01-10 16:28 ` Dave Jones
2003-01-10 16:41   ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2003-01-10 17:08     ` Dave Jones
2003-01-10 17:19 ` Alan Cox
2003-01-10 16:40   ` Jeff Garzik
2003-01-10 17:06   ` Dave Jones
2003-01-10 17:25     ` Jeff Garzik
2003-01-10 17:29     ` Linus Torvalds
2003-01-10 18:47       ` J.A. Magallon
2003-01-10 19:37         ` Matthew D. Pitts
2003-01-10 19:51         ` Jeff Garzik
2003-01-14  1:39       ` James H. Cloos Jr.
2003-01-15 21:46         ` [PATCH][RESEND w/ reasonable Subject] alsa before oss in Kconfig James H. Cloos Jr.
2003-01-10 18:16     ` any chance of 2.6.0-test*? Alan Cox
2003-01-10 17:37   ` Jochen Friedrich
2003-01-10 17:38     ` Linus Torvalds
2003-01-12  9:27   ` Greg KH
2003-01-12 16:55     ` Alan Cox
2003-01-12 17:05     ` Linus Torvalds
2003-01-12 17:17       ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-01-12 19:15         ` Linus Torvalds
2003-01-12 19:34           ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-12 19:37             ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-12 19:53               ` Tomas Szepe
2003-01-12 20:03                 ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-13 15:43                   ` Terje Eggestad
2003-01-13 15:49                     ` Jens Axboe
2003-01-13 16:25                       ` Terje Eggestad
2003-01-13 16:26                         ` Jens Axboe
2003-01-13 16:41                           ` Terje Eggestad
2003-01-13 16:43                             ` Jens Axboe
2003-01-13 17:00                               ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2003-01-13 18:48                                 ` Jens Axboe
2003-01-13 22:14                                   ` Keith Owens
2003-01-13 22:42                                     ` John Levon
2003-01-13 22:49                                   ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2003-01-13 23:32                                     ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-01-13 23:43                                       ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2003-01-12 20:44                 ` Alan Cox
2003-01-12 21:22                   ` David Woodhouse
2003-01-12 20:45                 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-01-13 13:14                   ` Bernd Schmidt
2003-01-18 13:04                 ` Folkert van Heusden
2003-01-12 19:38             ` Linus Torvalds
2003-01-12 19:59               ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-12 20:18                 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-01-12 20:23                   ` yodaiken
2003-01-12 20:26                   ` Tomas Szepe
2003-01-12 20:32                   ` Sean Neakums
2003-01-12 20:51                     ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-01-13  0:54                     ` Randy Dunlap
2003-01-12 20:46                   ` Kevin Puetz
2003-01-13  0:48                   ` Randy Dunlap
2003-01-18 13:07                   ` Folkert van Heusden
2003-01-12 20:20                 ` David Ford
2003-01-12 20:22                 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-01-12 20:33                   ` Robert Love
2003-01-12 20:33                     ` Linus Torvalds
2003-01-13 10:54                       ` Horst von Brand
2003-01-13 11:09                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2003-01-13 14:34                         ` Terje Eggestad
2003-01-13 23:23                         ` Bob Taylor
2003-01-12 20:48                   ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-12 20:59                     ` Dimitrie O. Paun
2003-01-12 22:48                     ` any chance of 2.6.0-test*? -> goto example Willy Tarreau
2003-01-13  0:53                       ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-13  1:31                         ` Willy Tarreau
2003-01-13 16:10                           ` Alexander Kellett
2003-01-14 10:36                             ` Helge Hafting
2003-01-12 23:11                     ` Coding style - (Was Re: any chance of 2.6.0-test*?) John Bradford
2003-01-13 11:07                     ` any chance of 2.6.0-test*? Helge Hafting
2003-01-13  3:30                   ` yodaiken
2003-01-12 21:29                 ` Rik van Riel
2003-01-13  0:03                 ` Scott Robert Ladd
2003-01-13  0:38                   ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-13  3:06                     ` [OT] " J Sloan
2003-01-13 16:51                     ` Emiliano Gabrielli
2003-01-13  0:38                 ` Randy Dunlap
2003-01-12 19:41             ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-01-12 19:41               ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-12 19:58                 ` David Ford
2003-01-12 20:07                   ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-12 20:31                     ` Oliver Neukum
2003-01-12 20:34                     ` David Ford
2003-01-12 20:31             ` Robert Love
2003-01-12 21:02               ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-12 21:15             ` Matti Aarnio
2003-01-12 21:27               ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-12 21:40                 ` Rik van Riel
2003-01-12 21:44                   ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-12 21:49                     ` Aaron Lehmann
2003-01-12 22:07                       ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-12 22:18                         ` Aaron Lehmann
2003-01-12 22:34                           ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-12 22:52                             ` Aaron Lehmann
2003-01-12 23:11                               ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-12 23:31                                 ` Oliver Neukum
2003-01-12 23:39                                 ` Emiliano Gabrielli
2003-01-12 23:46                                   ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-12 23:57                                     ` Emiliano Gabrielli
2003-01-13  0:08                                       ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-13 16:02                                         ` Terje Eggestad
2003-01-12 22:53                             ` Sean Neakums
2003-01-12 23:06                             ` Oliver Neukum
2003-01-12 23:48                             ` Rik van Riel
2003-01-12 21:58                     ` Emiliano Gabrielli
2003-01-12 22:12                       ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-12 22:29                         ` Olivier Galibert
2003-01-12 23:21                         ` Alan Cox
2003-01-12 22:12                     ` Oliver Neukum
2003-01-12 22:18                       ` Aaron Lehmann
2003-01-12 22:35                         ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-13  8:15                     ` Jens Axboe
2003-01-12 21:49                 ` David Ford
2003-01-13 19:22                   ` [OffTopic] [apology] " Rob Wilkens
2003-01-12 21:59                 ` Adam Kropelin
2003-01-12 22:21                   ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-12 22:33                     ` Tomas Szepe
2003-01-12 22:36                     ` Emiliano Gabrielli
2003-01-12 22:38                     ` Oliver Neukum
2003-01-12 22:42                     ` romieu
2003-01-13  1:06                     ` Randy Dunlap
2003-01-13  1:21                       ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-13  1:51                         ` Nuno Monteiro
2003-01-13  2:19                           ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-13  2:51                             ` Marcelo Pacheco
2003-01-13  3:37                               ` Rob Wilkens [this message]
2003-01-13  4:53                               ` Billy Rose
2003-01-13  3:06                             ` Jochen Striepe
2003-01-13  3:40                               ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-13  9:45                             ` Matti Aarnio
2003-01-13  3:48                         ` Ryan Anderson
2003-01-13  4:37                   ` Billy Rose
2003-01-12 22:06                 ` Oliver Neukum
2003-01-12 22:22                   ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-12 22:43                     ` Oliver Neukum
2003-01-12 22:51                       ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-12 23:00                         ` Robert Love
2003-01-12 23:16                           ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-12 23:16                           ` Nicolas Pitre
2003-01-12 23:05                         ` Emiliano Gabrielli
2003-01-12 23:23                           ` Oliver Neukum
2003-01-12 23:45                             ` Emiliano Gabrielli
2003-01-12 23:45                             ` Emiliano Gabrielli
2003-01-13 20:01                             ` Horst von Brand
2003-01-12 23:16                         ` Oliver Neukum
2003-01-13  2:00                         ` Ryan Anderson
2003-01-13  3:09                           ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-14  2:13                             ` Rik van Riel
2003-01-12 22:58                     ` Robert Love
2003-01-12 22:28                 ` Matti Aarnio
2003-01-13  1:26                 ` David Lang
2003-01-13  2:00                   ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-01-13 11:08                 ` How to avoid the woord 'goto' (was Re: any chance of 2.6.0-test*?) Bernd Petrovitsch
2003-01-13 14:56                   ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-13 22:02                 ` any chance of 2.6.0-test*? Val Henson
2003-01-13 10:32             ` gotos in kernel [Was: Re: any chance of 2.6.0-test*?] Horst von Brand
2003-01-13 14:53               ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-13 13:08             ` any chance of 2.6.0-test*? Dave Jones
2003-01-13 13:40               ` Andrew Walrond
2003-01-13 13:49               ` Oliver Neukum
2003-01-14  6:52               ` Bruce Harada
2003-01-14  7:12                 ` Brian Tinsley
2003-01-13 15:23             ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-01-13  6:23           ` Greg KH
2003-01-13 16:35             ` Linus Torvalds
2003-01-13 18:33               ` Alan Cox
2003-01-13 18:01                 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-01-13 19:17                 ` Andrew McGregor
2003-01-12 17:37       ` Russell King
2003-01-13  1:08 ` Michael Kingsbury
2003-01-13  1:52   ` William Lee Irwin III
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-01-10 16:39 Shawn Starr
2003-01-10 17:00 ` Dave Jones
2003-01-11 20:10 ` Horst von Brand
     [not found] <20030110144325.T26554@parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk>
     [not found] ` <20030110.130023.08256524.davem@redhat.com>
2003-01-10 21:48   ` Matthew Wilcox
     [not found] <20030110165441$1a8a@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found] ` <20030110165505$38d9@gated-at.bofh.it>
2003-01-11 12:27   ` Andi Kleen
2003-01-11 13:01     ` Russell King
2003-01-11 13:13       ` Andi Kleen
2003-01-11 14:39     ` Alan Cox
2003-01-11 14:06       ` Andi Kleen
2003-01-11 15:31         ` Alan Cox
2003-01-11 15:25           ` Andi Kleen
2003-01-11 19:18             ` Alan Cox
2003-01-13  3:33               ` Paul Mackerras
2003-01-13 14:59                 ` Alan Cox
2003-01-13 18:36                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2003-01-19 16:05         ` Pavel Machek
2003-01-12 18:02 David Truog
     [not found] <3C6BEE8B5E1BAC42905A93F13004E8AB017DE60F@mailse01.axis.se>
2003-01-12 20:58 ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-13 20:37 Manfred Spraul
2003-01-13 22:37 Albert D. Cahalan
     [not found] <20030112201009$1534@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found] ` <20030112204005$7287@gated-at.bofh.it>
2003-01-14 19:53   ` Kai Henningsen
2003-01-15 15:07     ` Scott Robert Ladd
2003-01-15 15:18       ` Marcelo Pacheco
2003-01-18 10:12       ` Kai Henningsen
2003-01-15 19:44     ` Werner Almesberger
     [not found] <20030112205008$7a5d@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found] ` <20030113112009$52fd@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]   ` <20030113144017$68de@gated-at.bofh.it>
2003-01-14 20:01     ` Kai Henningsen
     [not found] <20030112193012$71b2@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found] ` <20030113020015$6883@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]   ` <20030113023015$66a6@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]     ` <20030113030011$6563@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]       ` <20030113035007$451e@gated-at.bofh.it>
2003-01-14 20:18         ` Kai Henningsen
     [not found] <20030113001006$005c@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found] ` <20030113005007$4766@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]   ` <20030113170014$20a1@gated-at.bofh.it>
2003-01-18 10:21     ` Kai Henningsen

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