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From: Xavier Bestel <xavier.bestel@free.fr>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: jvlists@ntlworld.com, Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>,
	Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>, Andrew Morton <akpm@digeo.com>,
	rml@tech9.net,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [patch] "HT scheduler", sched-2.5.63-B3
Date: 07 Mar 2003 09:15:44 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1047024942.25382.12.camel@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0303061925050.17038-100000@localhost.localdomain>

Le jeu 06/03/2003 à 19:27, Ingo Molnar a écrit:
> On Thu, 6 Mar 2003 jvlists@ntlworld.com wrote:
> 
> > P.S. IMVHO the xine problem is completely different as has nothing to
> > with interactivity but with the fact that it is soft real-time. i.e. you
> > need to distingish xine from say a gimp filter or a 3D renderer with
> > incremental live updates of the scene it is creating.
> 
> it is the same category of problems: xine and X are both applications,
> which, if lagged, are noticed by users.

Actually I don't think so:
- X and games need hard interactivity: they have to compute fast a
response to an input.
- xine can precompute a few frames if it wants (I dunno if it does) and
just needs a precise timing to display them and sync the audio buffers.
It could do with CPU slices if X does the right 'display this frame at
this time' thing.

	Xav


  reply	other threads:[~2003-03-07  8:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 100+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-02-28  9:50 [patch] "HT scheduler", sched-2.5.63-B3 Ingo Molnar
2003-02-28 21:12 ` Andrew Morton
2003-02-28 21:23   ` Robert Love
2003-03-01  4:25     ` Andrew Morton
2003-03-06  3:20       ` Linus Torvalds
2003-03-06  7:45         ` Andrew Morton
2003-03-06  7:47           ` Ingo Molnar
2003-03-06 15:07             ` Linus Torvalds
2003-03-06 16:54               ` Ingo Molnar
2003-03-06 17:03                 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-03-06 17:24                   ` Ingo Molnar
2003-03-06 17:42                     ` Linus Torvalds
2003-03-06 17:54                       ` Ingo Molnar
2003-03-06 18:02                         ` Linus Torvalds
2003-03-06 18:11                           ` Ingo Molnar
2003-03-06 17:55                       ` John Levon
2003-03-06 18:07                         ` Linus Torvalds
2003-03-06 18:11                           ` John Levon
2003-03-06 18:16                             ` Linus Torvalds
2003-03-06 18:15                           ` Ingo Molnar
2003-03-06 18:20                             ` Linus Torvalds
2003-03-06 18:10                               ` David S. Miller
2003-03-06 18:18                           ` Ingo Molnar
2003-03-07  5:57                       ` Ingo Molnar
2003-03-07  5:54                         ` Shawn
2003-03-07  6:04                           ` Ingo Molnar
2003-03-07 14:28                         ` jlnance
2003-03-07  6:45                       ` Aaron Lehmann
2003-03-07  6:50                         ` Ingo Molnar
2003-03-07  7:00                           ` Aaron Lehmann
2003-03-07  7:36                             ` Ingo Molnar
2003-03-08 18:28                               ` Aaron Lehmann
2003-03-07  7:00                         ` Andrew Morton
2003-03-07  3:19                   ` Horst von Brand
2003-03-06 15:37           ` Linus Torvalds
2003-03-06 16:01             ` Jeff Garzik
2003-03-06 16:51               ` Linus Torvalds
2003-03-06 17:11                 ` Ingo Molnar
2003-03-06 17:52                   ` jvlists
2003-03-06 18:27                     ` Ingo Molnar
2003-03-07  8:15                       ` Xavier Bestel [this message]
2003-03-06 23:18                     ` Robert Love
2003-03-06 18:49                   ` Alan Cox
2003-03-06 17:55                     ` Linus Torvalds
2003-03-06 18:04                       ` Ingo Molnar
2003-03-06 18:13                         ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-03-06 18:26                           ` Linus Torvalds
2003-03-08  0:05                       ` Daniel Phillips
2003-03-06 17:58                     ` Ingo Molnar
2003-03-06 17:17               ` Ingo Molnar
2003-03-06 18:06                 ` Dimitrie O. Paun
2003-03-06 22:14                   ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-03-06 22:31                     ` Dimitrie O. Paun
2003-03-06 23:05                       ` Robert Love
2003-03-06 23:33                         ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-03-06 18:25               ` Alan Cox
2003-03-06 17:35                 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-03-06 22:30                   ` Eric Northup
2003-03-06 23:40                     ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-03-07  0:02                       ` Linus Torvalds
2003-03-07  0:09                         ` Dimitrie O. Paun
2003-03-06 22:00               ` Bill Davidsen
2003-03-06 17:13         ` Ingo Molnar
2003-03-06 17:30           ` Linus Torvalds
2003-03-06 17:33             ` Ingo Molnar
2003-03-06 17:50             ` Ingo Molnar
2003-03-06 18:00               ` Linus Torvalds
2003-03-06 20:42         ` Andrew Morton
2003-03-06 22:18           ` Robert Love
2003-03-07  5:52           ` Ingo Molnar
2003-03-07  5:51             ` Shawn
2003-03-07  6:01               ` Ingo Molnar
2003-03-07  6:07               ` Andrew Morton
2003-03-07  6:15           ` Ingo Molnar
2003-03-07 10:19             ` Helge Hafting
2003-03-07 11:06               ` Ingo Molnar
2003-03-07  7:45           ` Mike Galbraith
2003-03-07  7:45             ` Ingo Molnar
     [not found]             ` <Pine.LNX.4.44.0303070842420.4572-100000@localhost.localdom ain>
2003-03-07  8:09               ` Mike Galbraith
2003-03-07  8:10                 ` Andrew Morton
2003-03-07  8:26                   ` Mike Galbraith
2003-03-07  8:15                 ` Ingo Molnar
     [not found]                 ` <Pine.LNX.4.44.0303070913370.5173-100000@localhost.localdom ain>
2003-03-07  8:34                   ` Mike Galbraith
2003-03-07  8:31                     ` Ingo Molnar
2003-03-06 22:03         ` Martin Waitz
2003-03-06 22:07           ` Robert Love
2003-03-06 22:35             ` Martin Waitz
2003-03-06 22:56               ` Robert Love
2003-03-06 23:27                 ` Martin Waitz
2003-03-06 23:36                   ` Robert Love
2003-03-07 10:39                     ` Ingo Molnar
2003-03-07 10:27             ` Ingo Molnar
2003-03-06  6:58       ` [patch] "interactivity changes", sched-2.5.64-A4 Ingo Molnar
2003-03-06 10:00         ` Andrew Morton
2003-03-06 10:07           ` [patch] "interactivity changes", sched-2.5.64-A5 Ingo Molnar
2003-03-06 10:16 ` [patch] "HT scheduler", sched-2.5.63-B3 Chris Wedgwood
2003-03-06 10:18   ` Ingo Molnar
     [not found] <5.2.0.9.2.20030307093435.01a8fe88@pop.gmx.net>
2003-03-07  9:30 ` Ingo Molnar
     [not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.44.0303071003060.6318-100000@localhost.localdom ain>
2003-03-07  9:38   ` Mike Galbraith
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-03-10 19:53 Perez-Gonzalez, Inaky

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