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From: Martin Schlemmer <azarah@gentoo.org>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
Cc: William Lee Irwin III <wli@holomorphy.com>,
	KML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Recent changes to sysctl.h breaks glibc
Date: 19 May 2003 12:43:44 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1053341023.9152.64.camel@workshop.saharact.lan> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20030519063813.A30004@infradead.org>

On Mon, 2003-05-19 at 07:38, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> On Sun, May 18, 2003 at 11:12:19PM +0200, Martin Schlemmer wrote:
> > Yes, the standard answer.  So what kernel headers should glibc
> > be compiled against then ?
> 
> None.  But as glibc still hasn't been fixed use kernel headers from linux 2.4.
> 

Right, so who are going to tell the glibc guys that ?

-----------------------------------------------------------------
configure: error: GNU libc requires kernel header files from
Linux 2.0.10 or later to be installed before configuring.
The kernel header files are found usually in /usr/include/asm and
/usr/include/linux; make sure these directories use files from
Linux 2.0.10 or later.  This check uses <linux/version.h>, so
make sure that file was built correctly when installing the kernel
header
files.  To use kernel headers not from /usr/include/linux, use the
configure option --with-headers.
-----------------------------------------------------------------

I do not mind if thing break due to compatibility if needed to
enhance an API, etc ... gcc does that enough.

The big problem however is that every time somebody screws up
user space due to changes in kernel headers, the reply is always
the same:  "do not use kernel headers in user land"

Ok, lets say we stop doing that.  How do anything user side find
out specifics at compile time related to the kernel it should run
on ?  If we may not include kernel headers, what then?

Please understand, this is not me trolling, but everybody always
have the same answer for issues like this, but no solutions.


Thanks,

-- 
Martin Schlemmer



  reply	other threads:[~2003-05-19 10:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-05-18 20:21 Recent changes to sysctl.h breaks glibc Martin Schlemmer
2003-05-18 20:49 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-05-18 21:12   ` Martin Schlemmer
2003-05-19  5:38     ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-05-19 10:43       ` Martin Schlemmer [this message]
2003-05-19 10:51         ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-05-19 11:14           ` Martin Schlemmer
2003-05-19 11:21             ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-05-19 11:33             ` Arjan van de Ven
2003-05-19 11:43             ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-05-19 12:52               ` Martin Schlemmer
2003-05-19 21:14           ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-05-19 22:44             ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-05-19 22:46               ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-05-19 22:56                 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-05-19 23:04                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-05-20  6:06                   ` Martin Schlemmer
2003-05-19 11:45         ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-05-19 12:56           ` Martin Schlemmer
2003-05-19 13:06             ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-05-19 16:56               ` Sam Ravnborg
2003-05-19 17:41                 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-05-19 21:16                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-05-19 22:18                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2003-05-19 22:31                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-05-19 22:20                         ` Alan Cox
2003-05-19 23:28                           ` Andries Brouwer
2003-05-20 10:35                             ` Lionel Elie Mamane
2003-05-19 23:30                           ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-05-19 23:05                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2003-05-19 23:17                           ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-05-19 23:55                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2003-05-20  0:24                               ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-05-20  0:40                                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2003-05-20  1:11                                   ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-05-20 22:10                                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-05-20  0:30                               ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-05-20  0:54                             ` David Woodhouse
2003-05-20  1:09                               ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-05-20  1:42                                 ` Miles Bader
2003-05-20  4:12                                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-05-20  4:24                                     ` Miles Bader
2003-05-20  6:37                                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2003-05-20  7:24                                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-05-20 19:04                                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2003-05-20  7:44                               ` Riley Williams
2003-05-20 14:01                                 ` Chris Friesen
2003-05-20 17:06                                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-05-21  4:39                                     ` Martin Schlemmer
2003-05-21  5:38                                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-05-21  5:58                                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2003-05-19 18:05               ` David Ford
2003-05-19 17:44                 ` Alan Cox
2003-05-20  2:21                   ` David Ford
2003-05-19 18:24                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-05-19 17:59           ` David Ford
2003-05-19 18:06             ` Arjan van de Ven
2003-05-19 18:23               ` David Ford
2003-05-19 18:34                 ` Arjan van de Ven
2003-05-19 19:43                   ` Martin Schlemmer
2003-05-19 21:21                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-05-19 21:35               ` Sam Ravnborg
2003-05-19 21:37                 ` Arjan van de Ven
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-05-19 19:54 Mudama, Eric
2003-05-19 20:36 ` Martin Schlemmer

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