From: Martin Schlemmer <azarah@gentoo.org>
To: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
Cc: Chris Friesen <cfriesen@nortelnetworks.com>,
Riley Williams <Riley@Williams.Name>,
David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
KML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Recent changes to sysctl.h breaks glibc
Date: 21 May 2003 06:39:47 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1053491987.9142.1474.camel@workshop.saharact.lan> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3ECA60B0.6040402@zytor.com>
On Tue, 2003-05-20 at 19:06, H. Peter Anvin wrote:
> > What if the include/linux files themselves make use of the asm files?
> >
>
> No, not acceptable.
>
> The thing is, trying to redefine the old namespaces is hopeless at this
> point. Hence the proposed new namespace <linux/abi/*.h> ...
> <linux/abi/arch/*.h> would be my preference for an arch-specific
> subnamespace.
>
> Thus the rule is:
>
> a) <linux/abi/*> files MUST NOT include files outside <linux/abi/*>
>
> b) <linux/*.h> and <asm/*.h> are legacy namespaces. They should be
> considered to be completely different in kernel and userspace -- in
> effect, glibc will eventually ship with its own set of these headers.
>
> c) <linux/abi/*> files should be clean for inclusion from either kernel
> or userspace.
>
The only issue that we might have, is that <linux/abi/*> will once
again break many things. Sure, if we have to fix them once to get
this fixed for good, why not.
On the other hand, why not leave it at <linux/*.h> and <asm/*.h>
as the location of the ABI, and then move all kernel only
related stuff to <kernel/*.h> (or whatever, just the concept which
count ...) which can then include whatever it needs form the other
places (linux/asm)?
Regards,
--
Martin Schlemmer
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2003-05-21 7:59 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2003-05-18 20:21 Recent changes to sysctl.h breaks glibc Martin Schlemmer
2003-05-18 20:49 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-05-18 21:12 ` Martin Schlemmer
2003-05-19 5:38 ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-05-19 10:43 ` Martin Schlemmer
2003-05-19 10:51 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-05-19 11:14 ` Martin Schlemmer
2003-05-19 11:21 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-05-19 11:33 ` Arjan van de Ven
2003-05-19 11:43 ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-05-19 12:52 ` Martin Schlemmer
2003-05-19 21:14 ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-05-19 22:44 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-05-19 22:46 ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-05-19 22:56 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-05-19 23:04 ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-05-20 6:06 ` Martin Schlemmer
2003-05-19 11:45 ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-05-19 12:56 ` Martin Schlemmer
2003-05-19 13:06 ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-05-19 16:56 ` Sam Ravnborg
2003-05-19 17:41 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-05-19 21:16 ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-05-19 22:18 ` Eric W. Biederman
2003-05-19 22:31 ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-05-19 22:20 ` Alan Cox
2003-05-19 23:28 ` Andries Brouwer
2003-05-20 10:35 ` Lionel Elie Mamane
2003-05-19 23:30 ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-05-19 23:05 ` Eric W. Biederman
2003-05-19 23:17 ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-05-19 23:55 ` Eric W. Biederman
2003-05-20 0:24 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-05-20 0:40 ` Eric W. Biederman
2003-05-20 1:11 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-05-20 22:10 ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-05-20 0:30 ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-05-20 0:54 ` David Woodhouse
2003-05-20 1:09 ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-05-20 1:42 ` Miles Bader
2003-05-20 4:12 ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-05-20 4:24 ` Miles Bader
2003-05-20 6:37 ` Eric W. Biederman
2003-05-20 7:24 ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-05-20 19:04 ` Eric W. Biederman
2003-05-20 7:44 ` Riley Williams
2003-05-20 14:01 ` Chris Friesen
2003-05-20 17:06 ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-05-21 4:39 ` Martin Schlemmer [this message]
2003-05-21 5:38 ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-05-21 5:58 ` Eric W. Biederman
2003-05-19 18:05 ` David Ford
2003-05-19 17:44 ` Alan Cox
2003-05-20 2:21 ` David Ford
2003-05-19 18:24 ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-05-19 17:59 ` David Ford
2003-05-19 18:06 ` Arjan van de Ven
2003-05-19 18:23 ` David Ford
2003-05-19 18:34 ` Arjan van de Ven
2003-05-19 19:43 ` Martin Schlemmer
2003-05-19 21:21 ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-05-19 21:35 ` Sam Ravnborg
2003-05-19 21:37 ` Arjan van de Ven
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-05-19 19:54 Mudama, Eric
2003-05-19 20:36 ` Martin Schlemmer
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