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From: Daniel Gryniewicz <dang@fprintf.net>
To: Felipe Alfaro Solana <felipe_alfaro@linuxmail.org>
Cc: Helge Hafting <helgehaf@aitel.hist.no>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: O(1) scheduler & interactivity improvements
Date: 23 Jun 2003 12:21:07 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1056385266.1968.22.camel@athena.fprintf.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1056363509.587.13.camel@teapot.felipe-alfaro.com>

On Mon, 2003-06-23 at 06:18, Felipe Alfaro Solana wrote:

> If a process has received user
> input in the past, ir's pretty probable that the process is an
> interactive one.

<snip>

> So then, why I can easily starve the X11 server (which should be marked
> interactive), Evolution or OpenOffice simply by running "while true; do
> a=2; done". Why don't they get an increased priority boost to stop the
> from behaving so jerky?

You're own metric will kill you here.  You're while true; loop is
running in the shell, which is interactive (it has accepted user in put
in the past) and can therefore easily starve anything else.  You need a
an easy way to make an interactive process non-interactive, and that's
what these threads are all about, making interactive threads
non-interactive (and the other way around) in a fashion that maximises
the user experience.  A history of user input is not necessarily a good
metric, as many non-interactive CPU hogs start out life as interactive
threads (like your loop above).
-- 
Daniel Gryniewicz <dang@fprintf.net>


  reply	other threads:[~2003-06-23 16:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-06-22 16:07 O(1) scheduler & interactivity improvements Felipe Alfaro Solana
2003-06-22 20:00 ` Davide Libenzi
2003-06-23 12:50   ` Jesse Pollard
2003-06-23  8:09 ` Helge Hafting
2003-06-23 10:18   ` Felipe Alfaro Solana
2003-06-23 16:21     ` Daniel Gryniewicz [this message]
2003-06-23 18:59       ` Felipe Alfaro Solana
2003-06-23 19:21         ` Memory? " Roger Larsson
2003-06-23 16:47     ` Helge Hafting
2003-06-24 18:12       ` Bill Davidsen
2003-06-25 21:41         ` Helge Hafting
     [not found]       ` <5.2.0.9.2.20030624215008.00ce73b8@pop.gmx.net>
2003-06-26  9:59         ` Helge Hafting
2003-06-26 10:39           ` Mike Galbraith
2003-06-26 14:50           ` Bill Davidsen
2003-06-26 23:10           ` Timothy Miller
     [not found]           ` <Pine.LNX.3.96.1030626104733.17562D-100000@gatekeeper.tmr.c om>
2003-06-27  6:36             ` Mike Galbraith
2003-06-27  8:18               ` Helge Hafting
2003-06-27  9:46                 ` Mike Galbraith
2003-06-27 11:39                   ` Helge Hafting
2003-06-27 12:18                     ` Mike Galbraith
2003-06-28  3:51                   ` Bill Davidsen
     [not found]                   ` <Pine.LNX.3.96.1030627234408.25848A-100000@gatekeeper.tmr.c om>
2003-06-28  5:44                     ` Mike Galbraith
2003-06-28 14:34                       ` Helge Hafting
2003-06-29  6:08                         ` Mike Galbraith
2003-06-30 13:37                       ` Bill Davidsen
2003-06-27  6:54           ` jw schultz
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-06-23 10:50 John Bradford
2003-06-23 11:22 ` Felipe Alfaro Solana
2003-06-23 11:36 ` Denis Vlasenko
2003-06-23 12:44 John Bradford
2003-06-23 16:32 ` Helge Hafting
2003-06-23 19:00   ` Felipe Alfaro Solana
2003-06-23 19:17     ` Helge Hafting
2003-06-24 22:41   ` Timothy Miller
2003-06-25 21:42     ` Helge Hafting
2003-06-25 23:16       ` Timothy Miller
2003-06-23 21:48 ` Bill Davidsen
2003-06-23 19:20 John Bradford
2003-06-23 23:32 John Bradford
2003-06-24  4:13 ` Bill Davidsen

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