From: "Martin J. Bligh" <mbligh@aracnet.com>
To: Craig Milo Rogers <rogers@isi.edu>, Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
Cc: Xavier Bestel <xavier.bestel@free.fr>,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
webcam@smcc.demon.nl
Subject: Re: Termination of the Philips Webcam Driver (pwc)
Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 12:06:20 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <106230000.1093633580@flay> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040827185541.GC24018@isi.edu>
>> But Greg is right - we don't keep hooks that are there purely for binary
>> drivers. If somebody wants a binary driver, it had better be a whole
>> independent thing - and it won't be distributed with the kernel.
>
> If you read Nemosoft's final driver release (which has been
> reposted, and of which I now have a copy), you can see that he was
> rewriting his code to move the proprietary codecs out of the kernel
> entirely, and into user-mode libraries to be linked with consenting
> applications -- he was quite sensitive to the kernel issues involved.
> Of course, this is still nowhere as good as a wholly open source
> solution, a position with which I think Nemosoft concurs, based on his
> messages.
>
> Linus, would you adress a moot issue, please? If Nemosoft (or
> someone else) were to release some of the codecs in question as one or
> more open-source loadable kernel modules (similar to sound card
> support modules in the ALSA system), while other codecs remain
> binary-only loadable kernel modules (distributed outside the kernel,
> but using the same hook as the open-source loadable modules), would
> the pwc driver and codec extension hook be allowable, in your opinion,
> please?
If he was moving the binary stuff out of kernel space into userspace,
do we even need that at all? Once the binary part is out of the kernel,
presumably there's no problem any more ... and we could just stick the
remains of the driver back in, with no magic hooks any more ...
M.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-08-27 19:12 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-08-26 23:32 Termination of the Philips Webcam Driver (pwc) Craig Milo Rogers
2004-08-26 23:47 ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-08-27 0:03 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-08-27 8:43 ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-08-27 9:48 ` Craig Milo Rogers
2004-08-27 17:28 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-08-27 17:37 ` Xavier Bestel
2004-08-27 18:13 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-08-27 18:55 ` Craig Milo Rogers
2004-08-27 19:06 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-08-27 19:34 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-08-27 21:42 ` Nemosoft Unv.
2004-08-27 22:49 ` Marek Habersack
2004-08-27 23:40 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2004-08-28 17:42 ` Pavel Machek
2004-08-27 23:04 ` Craig Milo Rogers
2004-08-27 21:59 ` non-i386 architectures (Re: Termination of the Philips Webcam Driver (pwc)) Daniel Egger
2004-08-27 19:06 ` Martin J. Bligh [this message]
2004-08-27 19:12 ` Termination of the Philips Webcam Driver (pwc) Alex Belits
2004-08-27 21:36 ` Anton Altaparmakov
2004-08-27 21:42 ` Anton Altaparmakov
2004-08-27 22:26 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2004-08-27 21:52 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-08-27 22:22 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-08-28 0:45 ` Paul Jakma
2004-08-28 0:53 ` Craig Milo Rogers
2004-08-28 10:29 ` Norbert van Nobelen
2004-08-29 14:37 ` Alan Cox
2004-08-28 9:26 ` chris
2004-08-29 14:41 ` Alan Cox
2004-08-29 14:36 ` Alan Cox
2004-08-29 18:09 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-08-29 18:57 ` Alan Cox
2004-08-29 19:40 ` Greg KH
2004-08-30 9:35 ` Craig Milo Rogers
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-08-27 10:14 Koos Vriezen
2004-08-27 11:03 ` Marcus Metzler
2004-08-28 2:16 lkml-mail
2004-08-28 5:30 ` Greg KH
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