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From: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>
To: Andre Hedrick <andre@linux-ide.org>
Cc: Rob Landley <rob@landley.net>,
	"Henning P. Schmiedehausen" <hps@intermeta.de>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: freed_symbols [Re: People, not GPL [was: Re: Driver Model]]
Date: Sun, 05 Oct 2003 21:03:17 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1065384197.3129.4.camel@lapdancer.baythorne.internal> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10310051211520.21746-100000@master.linux-ide.org>

On Sun, 2003-10-05 at 12:21 -0700, Andre Hedrick wrote:
> David,
> 
> It is about the fact that Linus on his own set a position that modules are
> permitted. 

It is indeed. And about that fact that by the time he made that
declaration, he was not in a position to make it unilaterally.


>  Now if you want to take the position that one can not modify
> and redistribute the modified kernel in source, you are imposing a
> restriction.

A restriction in this case which I assert was present in the original
licence; not an 'additional restriction'.

If I wanted to distribute my code without restrictions, I'd have
contributed to a BSD kernel, or released my code under the terms 
"GPL but not if you really really don't fancy it".

I don't. I didn't.

> If I wanted to be rude, I could take the changes I made and copyright the
> combined work and make it so others could not use that version without
> permission. 

Not without being in violation of the original licence. This isn't about
the resulting combined work, but about your permission to use the
_original_.

> Neither you or I can do anything, provide the vendor who is using Linux
> publishes their source fork.  I also dare you to stop them, because you
> can't.

Believe me, there are ways this can be achieved.
 
-- 
dwmw2


  reply	other threads:[~2003-10-05 20:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 124+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <uess.1w0.9@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found] ` <ujV3.1uP.13@gated-at.bofh.it>
2003-09-10 21:52   ` People, not GPL [was: Re: Driver Model] Pascal Schmidt
2003-09-10 22:26     ` David Schwartz
2003-09-10 22:34       ` Pascal Schmidt
2003-09-11  1:35         ` David Schwartz
2003-09-11 13:30           ` Eric W. Biederman
2003-09-11 18:39             ` David Schwartz
2003-09-11 18:45               ` Mike Fedyk
2003-09-13 17:52                 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-09-13 23:54                   ` Erik Andersen
2003-09-13 17:34             ` Andre Hedrick
2003-09-14 10:55               ` Sean Estabrooks
2003-09-11 14:36           ` Alan Cox
2003-09-13 17:42             ` Andre Hedrick
2003-09-12 20:58           ` Timothy Miller
2003-09-12 21:47             ` Matt D. Robinson
2003-09-12 22:31               ` Alan Cox
2003-09-12 23:26                 ` David Schwartz
2003-09-13  0:29                   ` Matt D. Robinson
2003-09-13 17:42                     ` Alan Cox
2003-09-13  5:38                   ` jw schultz
2003-09-13 17:44                   ` Alan Cox
2003-09-13 18:19             ` Andre Hedrick
2003-09-13 20:01               ` Andre Hedrick
2003-09-13 23:17                 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-09-14  1:57             ` Erik Andersen
2003-09-14  2:40               ` Andre Hedrick
2003-09-14  3:42                 ` Erik Andersen
2003-09-14  3:36                   ` Andre Hedrick
2003-09-14  4:37                     ` Erik Andersen
2003-09-14  4:58                       ` freed_symbols [Re: People, not GPL [was: Re: Driver Model]] Andre Hedrick
2003-09-14  5:39                         ` Erik Andersen
2003-09-14  5:32                           ` Andre Hedrick
2003-09-14  6:41                             ` Erik Andersen
2003-09-14  6:50                               ` Andre Hedrick
2003-09-14  7:10                               ` Andre Hedrick
2003-09-14  8:08                                 ` Erik Andersen
2003-09-15  0:17                                   ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2003-09-15  5:57                                     ` Erik Andersen
2003-09-15  6:14                                       ` Nick Piggin
2003-10-05  0:52                                       ` Rob Landley
2003-10-05  1:05                                         ` Larry McVoy
2003-10-05  2:34                                           ` viro
2003-10-05  3:45                                             ` Larry McVoy
2003-10-05 10:24                                               ` David Woodhouse
2003-10-05 13:56                                                 ` Larry McVoy
2003-10-05 14:14                                                   ` David Woodhouse
2003-10-05 10:23                                           ` David Woodhouse
2003-10-05 11:32                                             ` David Lang
2003-10-05 13:37                                               ` David Woodhouse
2003-10-05  6:40                                         ` Andre Hedrick
2003-10-05  7:39                                           ` viro
2003-10-05 18:27                                           ` David Woodhouse
2003-10-05 19:21                                             ` Andre Hedrick
2003-10-05 20:03                                               ` David Woodhouse [this message]
2003-10-05 20:14                                                 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-10-05 20:34                                                   ` David Woodhouse
2003-10-05 20:43                                                     ` Andre Hedrick
2003-10-06  1:22                                                     ` Larry McVoy
2003-10-06  1:37                                                       ` David Lang
2003-10-06  1:51                                                         ` Larry McVoy
2003-10-05 19:32                                             ` Maciej Zenczykowski
2003-10-05 19:47                                               ` Andre Hedrick
2003-10-05 20:38                                                 ` David Woodhouse
2003-10-05 20:46                                                   ` Andre Hedrick
2003-10-05 19:54                                               ` Arjan van de Ven
2003-09-14  8:45                                 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-09-15  0:16                         ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2003-09-15  0:27                           ` Justin Cormack
2003-09-14 21:40                       ` People, not GPL [was: Re: Driver Model] David Schwartz
2003-09-15  8:06                 ` David S. Miller
2003-09-14  2:51               ` Andre Hedrick
2003-09-14  3:05               ` GPL == DMCA [Re: People, not GPL [was: Re: Driver Model]] Andre Hedrick
2003-10-29 22:42             ` People, not GPL [was: Re: Driver Model] David Schwartz
2003-10-29 23:11               ` David S. Miller
2003-10-30  0:10               ` David Schwartz
2003-09-11  1:39         ` David Schwartz
2003-09-13 17:11         ` Andre Hedrick
2003-09-13 21:11           ` Pascal Schmidt
2003-09-13 21:19             ` David Schwartz
2003-09-13 21:12               ` Andre Hedrick
2003-09-13 22:09               ` Alan Cox
2003-09-13 22:30                 ` David Schwartz
2003-09-14  1:16                   ` Andrew Pimlott
2003-09-15 15:26                   ` Martin Schlemmer
2003-09-13 23:00                 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-09-12 21:04       ` Timothy Miller
2003-09-12 21:17         ` David Schwartz
2003-09-15 18:24           ` Timothy Miller
2003-09-15 20:17             ` David Schwartz
2003-09-13 18:09         ` Andre Hedrick
     [not found] <vyRY.6te.13@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found] ` <vzkY.7cC.7@gated-at.bofh.it>
2003-09-14  9:16   ` freed_symbols [Re: People, not GPL [was: Re: Driver Model]] Pascal Schmidt
2003-09-14 17:09     ` Stan Bubrouski
     [not found] <fa.grj6i7d.lmorqn@ifi.uio.no>
     [not found] ` <fa.n320lec.1p4i0gc@ifi.uio.no>
2003-10-05 16:44   ` walt
     [not found] <Dnwo.1ew.15@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found] ` <DnPL.3XB.11@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]   ` <DsvX.3yN.1@gated-at.bofh.it>
2003-10-06 18:28     ` Pascal Schmidt
2003-10-06 18:38       ` Larry McVoy
2003-10-06 21:29         ` Olivier Galibert
2003-10-07  0:56           ` Larry McVoy
2003-10-07  8:40         ` David Woodhouse
2003-10-07  8:56           ` Andre Hedrick
2003-10-07 10:13             ` Roman Zippel
2003-10-07 10:33               ` Andre Hedrick
2003-10-07 10:44                 ` Roman Zippel
2003-10-07 11:25                   ` Andre Hedrick
2003-10-07 14:03                     ` Roman Zippel
2003-10-07 19:09                       ` David S. Miller
2003-10-07  8:58           ` David S. Miller
2003-10-07 14:16           ` Larry McVoy
2003-10-07 14:48             ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-10-07  8:28       ` David Woodhouse
     [not found] <DIre.Cy.15@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found] ` <DIre.Cy.17@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]   ` <DIre.Cy.19@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]     ` <DIre.Cy.13@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]       ` <DIAQ.2Hh.5@gated-at.bofh.it>
2003-10-06 18:56         ` Pascal Schmidt
2003-10-06 19:09           ` David Lang
2003-10-06 20:08           ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-10-07 10:49             ` Pavel Machek
2003-10-10 12:14               ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-10-10 12:48                 ` David S. Miller
2003-10-10 13:27                 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-10-10 12:55               ` Jamie Lokier
2003-10-10 13:07                 ` David S. Miller
2003-10-10 13:28                   ` Jamie Lokier
2003-10-06 22:46           ` Andre Hedrick
2003-10-06 23:01             ` Jamie Lokier
2003-10-07  0:20             ` Pascal Schmidt
2003-10-07  2:31               ` Andre Hedrick
2003-10-07 10:03 Pascal Schmidt

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