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From: Soeren Sonnenburg <kernel@nn7.de>
To: Willy Tarreau <willy@w.ods.org>
Cc: Con Kolivas <kernel@kolivas.org>,
	Mark Hahn <hahn@physics.mcmaster.ca>,
	Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	gillb4@telusplanet.net
Subject: Re: xterm scrolling speed - scheduling weirdness in 2.6 ?!
Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2004 01:11:22 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1073175082.9851.358.camel@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040103233518.GE3728@alpha.home.local>

On Sun, 2004-01-04 at 00:35, Willy Tarreau wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 04, 2004 at 08:15:54AM +1100, Con Kolivas wrote:
[...]
> 6) Conclusion
> =============
> 
> Under 2.4, xterm uses jump scrolling which it does not use by default under
> 2.6 if X responds fast enough. The first dirty solution which comes to mind
> is to renice X to >+10 to slow it a bit so that xterm hits the high water
> level and jumps.
> 
> But it's not an effect of the scheduler alone, but a side effect of the
> scheduler and xterm both trying to automatically adjust their behaviour in
> a different manner. If either the scheduler or xterm was a bit smarter or
> used different thresholds, the problem would go away. It would also explain
> why there are people who cannot reproduce it. Perhaps a somewhat faster or
> slower system makes the problem go away. Honnestly, it's the first time that
> I notice that my xterms are jump-scrolling, it was so much fluid anyway.

Hmmhh, indeed I could reproduce that here.
However I am using multi-gnome-terminal and I've heard of others
observing this issue using gnome-terminal. 
As they are probably all derived from xterm I now do wonder how to fix
them in such a way that it works smoothly with 2.4 and 2.6.

Soeren.


  reply	other threads:[~2004-01-04  0:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <Pine.LNX.4.44.0401031439060.24942-100000@coffee.psychology.mcmaster.ca>
2004-01-03 20:19 ` xterm scrolling speed - scheduling weirdness in 2.6 ?! Soeren Sonnenburg
2004-01-03 21:00   ` Con Kolivas
2004-01-03 21:10     ` Soeren Sonnenburg
2004-01-03 21:15       ` Con Kolivas
2004-01-03 23:35         ` Willy Tarreau
2004-01-04  0:11           ` Soeren Sonnenburg [this message]
2004-01-04  1:42           ` Con Kolivas
2004-01-04  3:32             ` Tim Connors
2004-01-04  5:58               ` Con Kolivas
2004-01-06  1:09                 ` Peter Osterlund
2004-01-06  1:37                   ` Nick Piggin
2004-01-06  2:28                     ` Peter Osterlund
2004-01-06  2:50                       ` Nick Piggin
2004-01-06  6:27                       ` Nick Piggin
2004-01-05 22:25               ` Bryan Whitehead
2004-01-04  8:09             ` Soeren Sonnenburg
2004-01-04  8:49               ` Con Kolivas
2004-01-04 11:13                 ` Martin Schlemmer
2004-01-04 11:24                   ` Soeren Sonnenburg
2004-01-04 12:45                   ` Con Kolivas
2004-01-04 14:42                     ` Martin Schlemmer
2004-01-04 18:40                       ` mikeg
2004-01-04 22:58                       ` szonyi calin
2004-01-04 23:33                         ` Willy Tarreau
2004-01-04 23:44                           ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-01-04 23:47                           ` Mike Fedyk
2004-01-05  8:39                             ` Soeren Sonnenburg
2004-01-05 20:38                               ` Martin Schlemmer
2004-01-05  9:18                             ` Soeren Sonnenburg
2004-01-05 17:20                               ` Martin Schlemmer
2004-01-05 17:21                                 ` Willy Tarreau
2004-01-05  9:50                             ` Kenneth Johansson
2004-01-05 10:17                               ` Soeren Sonnenburg
2004-04-02 18:22                               ` solved (was Re: xterm scrolling speed - scheduling weirdness in 2.6 ?!) Soeren Sonnenburg
2004-04-03  5:35                                 ` Tim Connors
2004-04-03  6:06                                   ` Tim Connors
2004-04-03 14:11                                     ` Jamie Lokier
2004-01-05  8:26                         ` xterm scrolling speed - scheduling weirdness in 2.6 ?! Soeren Sonnenburg
2004-01-04  8:54               ` Lincoln Dale
2004-01-04  9:17                 ` Nick Piggin
2004-01-04 10:24                   ` Soeren Sonnenburg
2004-01-04 11:12                     ` Mike Fedyk
2004-01-04 11:17                       ` Soeren Sonnenburg
2004-01-04 11:20                         ` Mike Fedyk
2004-01-04 11:19                       ` Willy Tarreau
2004-01-05  0:48                         ` Nick Piggin
2004-01-04 11:46                   ` Nicks's scheduler's OK [was Re: xterm scrolling speed - scheduling weirdness in 2.6 ?!] Willy Tarreau
2004-01-04 12:07                   ` xterm scrolling speed - scheduling weirdness in 2.6 ?! Willy Tarreau
2004-01-05  0:51                     ` Nick Piggin
2004-01-05 18:37                       ` Willy Tarreau
2004-01-06  0:33                         ` Nick Piggin
2004-01-04 10:11                 ` Soeren Sonnenburg
2004-01-05 10:31                   ` venom
2004-01-03 21:18     ` Willy Tarreau
2004-01-03 21:39 Bob Gill
     [not found] <Pine.LNX.4.44.0401031402210.24942-100000@coffee.psychology.mcmaster.ca>
2004-01-03 19:07 ` Soeren Sonnenburg
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-01-03 18:52 Soeren Sonnenburg
2004-01-03 19:19 ` Willy Tarreau
2004-01-04 20:47   ` Peter Chubb
2004-01-04 20:54     ` Willy TARREAU
2004-01-05  3:46       ` Peter Chubb

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