From: Thomas Zehetbauer <thomasz@hostmaster.org>
To: Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Intel vs AMD x86-64
Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2004 02:01:02 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1077584461.8414.164.camel@hostmaster.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.58.0402211907100.3301@ppc970.osdl.org>
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On Sam, 2004-02-21 at 19:12 -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> Any Intel people on this list: tell your managers to be f*cking ashamed of
> themselves. Just because Intel didn't care about their customers and has
> been playing with some other 64-bit architecture that nobody wanted to use
> is no excuse for not giving credit to AMD for what they did with x86-64.
This very clear statement deserves standing ovations :-)
If anyone from Intel is really listening here I would like them to know
that I am pretty much pissed of by their product politics as well.
Although older Celeron processors supported SMP configurations they were
not supported and to my knowledge never used in the primary SMP market.
So in fact they even helped Intel to increase their revenues by allowing
hobbyists to build their own affordable SMP boxes. Nonetheless Intel has
decided to disable this capability in current Celeron and even Pentium
processors attempting to force hobbyists into the professional market
with about four times the cost of previous configurations.
For my part I have understood the message from Intel, that they do not
want hobbyists looking for cheap SMP configurations as their customers
and will accordingly buy AMD in the future.
Tom
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-02-24 1:01 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-02-18 1:44 Intel vs AMD x86-64 Linus Torvalds
2004-02-18 9:56 ` Mikael Pettersson
2004-02-18 14:31 ` Diego Calleja García
2004-02-18 18:17 ` Bryan O'Sullivan
2004-02-18 14:54 ` Stefan Smietanowski
2004-02-18 15:47 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-02-22 2:59 ` Herbert Poetzl
2004-02-22 3:12 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-02-22 3:39 ` Tomasz Rola
2004-02-22 3:47 ` Mike Fedyk
2004-02-22 4:12 ` Scott Robert Ladd
2004-02-23 0:38 ` Timothy Miller
2004-02-23 2:17 ` Tom Vier
2004-02-22 8:38 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2004-02-22 10:00 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2004-02-23 15:51 ` Clay Haapala
2004-02-23 17:03 ` Adrian Bunk
2004-02-23 17:31 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-02-24 9:47 ` Kees Bakker
2004-02-24 9:59 ` viro
2004-02-24 10:59 ` Andrew Walrond
2004-02-23 18:56 ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-02-23 21:25 ` Rik van Riel
2004-02-23 21:36 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-02-23 21:48 ` David S. Miller
2004-02-23 22:08 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-02-23 22:06 ` David S. Miller
2004-02-23 22:56 ` H. Peter Anvin
2004-02-24 1:01 ` Thomas Zehetbauer [this message]
2004-02-24 1:11 ` John Heil
2004-02-24 13:32 ` Timothy Miller
2004-02-24 14:39 ` Scott Robert Ladd
2004-02-24 19:43 ` Rogier Wolff
2004-02-24 19:49 ` John Heil
2004-02-24 20:03 ` Mike Fedyk
2004-02-24 20:03 ` John Heil
2004-02-24 21:20 ` Timothy Miller
2004-02-25 18:40 ` Matt Seitz
2004-02-18 19:13 ` Aaron Lehmann
2004-02-19 6:02 ` Mikael Pettersson
2004-02-19 9:15 ` Terje Eggestad
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-02-18 21:26 Peter Maas
2004-02-18 21:28 Peter Maas
2004-02-23 18:10 Nakajima, Jun
2004-02-24 13:25 ` Pavel Machek
2004-02-23 19:59 Xose Vazquez Perez
2004-02-24 2:42 Albert Cahalan
2004-02-24 16:44 ` Dave Jones
2004-02-24 15:11 ` Albert Cahalan
2004-02-24 17:34 ` Dave Jones
2004-02-24 15:29 ` Albert Cahalan
2004-02-24 18:07 ` Dave Jones
2004-02-24 21:01 Sean Fao
2004-02-24 21:26 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-02-24 22:21 ` Timothy Miller
2004-02-25 22:30 ` Davide Rossetti
2004-02-24 21:31 ` Timothy Miller
2004-02-24 21:31 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-02-24 21:28 ` Dave Jones
2004-02-26 21:39 ` Kai Henningsen
2004-02-24 23:15 Nakajima, Jun
2004-02-25 1:52 ` Chris Wedgwood
[not found] <7F740D512C7C1046AB53446D37200173EA2684@scsmsx402.sc.intel.com.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
2004-02-24 23:49 ` Andi Kleen
2004-02-25 3:07 Nakajima, Jun
2004-02-25 3:24 Nakajima, Jun
2004-02-25 16:22 ` Timothy Miller
2004-02-25 16:17 ` H. Peter Anvin
2004-02-25 17:18 ` Timothy Miller
2004-02-25 17:16 ` H. Peter Anvin
2004-02-25 19:05 ` Timothy Miller
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[not found] ` <1sSi2-1NC-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
[not found] ` <1sT4l-2CW-17@gated-at.bofh.it>
2004-02-25 15:41 ` Bill Davidsen
2004-02-25 16:08 ` Moritz Muehlenhoff
2004-02-25 20:07 Nakajima, Jun
2004-02-25 23:44 ` Timothy Miller
2004-02-26 0:13 ` H. Peter Anvin
2004-02-26 1:19 Nakajima, Jun
2004-02-26 16:04 ` Timothy Miller
2004-02-27 3:16 ` Bill Davidsen
2004-03-02 23:22 Nakajima, Jun
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