From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S262118AbUBXBBS (ORCPT ); Mon, 23 Feb 2004 20:01:18 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S262121AbUBXBBS (ORCPT ); Mon, 23 Feb 2004 20:01:18 -0500 Received: from chello212186110032.14.vie.surfer.at ([212.186.110.32]:53129 "HELO hostmaster.org") by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id S262118AbUBXBBG (ORCPT ); Mon, 23 Feb 2004 20:01:06 -0500 Subject: Re: Intel vs AMD x86-64 From: Thomas Zehetbauer To: Kernel Mailing List In-Reply-To: References: <16435.14044.182718.134404@alkaid.it.uu.se> <20040222025957.GA31813@MAIL.13thfloor.at> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-UvXHY7U55yiTj7NwVFOo" Message-Id: <1077584461.8414.164.camel@hostmaster.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.5.3 (1.5.3-1) Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2004 02:01:02 +0100 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org --=-UvXHY7U55yiTj7NwVFOo Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sam, 2004-02-21 at 19:12 -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote: =20 > Any Intel people on this list: tell your managers to be f*cking ashamed o= f > themselves. Just because Intel didn't care about their customers and has > been playing with some other 64-bit architecture that nobody wanted to us= e > is no excuse for not giving credit to AMD for what they did with x86-64. This very clear statement deserves standing ovations :-) If anyone from Intel is really listening here I would like them to know that I am pretty much pissed of by their product politics as well. Although older Celeron processors supported SMP configurations they were not supported and to my knowledge never used in the primary SMP market. So in fact they even helped Intel to increase their revenues by allowing hobbyists to build their own affordable SMP boxes. Nonetheless Intel has decided to disable this capability in current Celeron and even Pentium processors attempting to force hobbyists into the professional market with about four times the cost of previous configurations. For my part I have understood the message from Intel, that they do not want hobbyists looking for cheap SMP configurations as their customers and will accordingly buy AMD in the future. Tom --=-UvXHY7U55yiTj7NwVFOo Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iQEVAwUAQDqiTWD1OYqW/8uJAQKFuAf/SmnxTAGdoUnSiYfl0sKIJ3r3jTCGSO+f luKIWjMahPOEpxsCLqAU5UvRAYDm8gCm6Tp0MhPQviWxrBVzChoxrRRnZMZS8oCB +4acOexBEQtL7jPA1O2DwMdUob1knbnEo7tVkU3IdyRaSJSXLuayGiERehrP779w QwcYKMDHBWCs1IolJcnW/zr0osZSlttYapSZvkoy0u5cwu4xeE2eB3aFyP/Fpi5B kFb6PZaDHuWz0N7FOeaHmDfY38jtdHF2FgCn/eQTQsd4dkw8VZpw+I9O1xD7LYZD CgE5S/E9E/Xou8FtTxmjWB23qZrcWrseB+v08X9MVIdAYMZS826X3Q== =dGbn -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-UvXHY7U55yiTj7NwVFOo--