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From: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
To: Chris Friesen <cfriesen@nortelnetworks.com>
Cc: Linux Kernel list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Tom Rini <trini@kernel.crashing.org>
Subject: Re: problem with cache flush routine for G5?
Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2004 10:53:55 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1078530835.5704.125.camel@gaston> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4048B720.4010403@nortelnetworks.com>


> This OS allows runtime patching of code.  After changing the 
> instruction(s), it then has to make sure that the icache doesn't contain 
> stale instructions.
> 
> The original code was written for ppc hardware that had the ability to 
> flush the whole dcache and invalidate the whole icache, all at once, so 
> that's what they used. 

That's very inefficient.

> The code doesn't track the address/size of what 
> was changed.  For our existing products, we are using the 74xx series, 
> and they've got hardware cache flush/invalidate as well, so we just kept 
> using that.

Ouch... that _VERY_ inefficient... and the HW flush on the 74xx may
be broken on some models afaik =P 

>   For the 970 however, that hardware mechanisms seem to be 
> absent, which started me on this whole path.
> 
> After doing some digging in the 970fx specs, it seems that we may not 
> need to explicitly force a store of the L1 dcache at all.  According to 
> the docs, the L1 dcache is unconditionally store-through. Thus, for a 
> brute-force implementation we should be able to just invalidate the 
> whole icache, do the appropriate sync/isync, and it should pick up the 
> changed instructions from the L2 cache.  Do you see any problems with 
> this?  Do I actually still need the store?

It's unclear if stores will get straight to the coherency domain or not,
they may still be stuffed in a store queue... Though a sync would
probably flush it. Still, you should really try to get your code fixes
to just dcb{f,st}/icbi on the right instruction.

> Of course, the proper fix is to change the code in the OS running on the 
> emulator to track the addresses that got changed and just do the minimal 
> work required.
> 
> Chris
-- 
Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>


  reply	other threads:[~2004-03-05 23:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-03-04 21:06 problem with cache flush routine for G5? Chris Friesen
2004-03-04 23:51 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-03-04 23:57   ` Tom Rini
2004-03-05  0:04     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-03-05  0:44       ` Chris Friesen
2004-03-05 15:15       ` Tom Rini
2004-03-05 23:51         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-03-05  0:37   ` Chris Friesen
2004-03-05  2:10     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-03-05  5:39       ` Chris Friesen
2004-03-05  5:46         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-03-05 17:21           ` Chris Friesen
2004-03-05 23:53             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt [this message]
2004-03-06  1:34             ` Segher Boessenkool
2004-03-06  2:31             ` Anton Blanchard

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