From: Albert Cahalan <albert@users.sf.net>
To: "Randy.Dunlap" <rddunlap@osdl.org>
Cc: Peter Williams <peterw@aurema.com>,
albert@users.sourceforge.net, arjanv@redhat.com, ak@muc.de,
Richard.Curnow@superh.com, aeb@cwi.nl,
linux-kernel mailing list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: finding out the value of HZ from userspace
Date: 31 Mar 2004 18:46:58 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1080776817.2233.2326.camel@cube> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040331134009.76ca3b6d.rddunlap@osdl.org>
> | >>>>there is one. Nothing uses it
> | >>>>(sysconf() provides this info)
> | >>>
> | >>>If you have a recent glibc on a recent kernel, it might.
> | >>>You could also get a -1 or a supposed ABI value that
> | >>>has nothing to do with the kernel currently running.
> | >>>The most reliable way is to first look around on the
> | >>>stack in search of ELF notes, and then fall back to
> | >>>some horribly gross hacks as needed.
> | >>
> | >>eh sysconf() is the nice way to get to the ELF notes
> | >>instead of having to grovel yourself.
> | >
> | >
> | > Unless there is some hidden feature that lets
> | > me specify the ELF note number directly, no way.
> | >
> | > The sysconf(_SC_CLK_TCK) call does not return an
> | > error code when used on a 2.2.xx i386 kernel.
> | > You get an arbitrary value that fails for ARM,
> | > Alpha, and any system with modified HZ.
> |
> | As Linux is supposed to be POSIX compliant this is a bug and should be
> | fixed.
>
>
> My understanding (from a few years back) is that Linux is POSIX
> if/when/where it makes sense, but not necessarily POSIX-just-to-be-POSIX.
The fixing has been done.
This is not yet helpful for app developers, because
old kernels and old libraries are still in use.
If you rely on sysconf(_SC_CLK_TCK) to work, then
your software will support:
* all systems with a 2.6.xx kernel
* all systems with a 2.4.xx kernel and recent glibc
* all i386 systems running with the default HZ
That's quite a bit I suppose. Maybe you have no
interest in supporting a 1200 HZ Alpha with an old
kernel or glibc. Maybe you don't care about somebody
running a 2.2.xx kernel with modified HZ.
For the moment, I still care. I won't for long.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-03-31 23:42 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-03-16 16:14 finding out the value of HZ from userspace Albert Cahalan
2004-03-16 17:22 ` Richard Curnow
2004-03-20 9:56 ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-03-20 14:54 ` Albert Cahalan
2004-03-20 23:58 ` Peter Williams
2004-03-31 21:40 ` Randy.Dunlap
2004-03-31 23:46 ` Albert Cahalan [this message]
2004-04-01 15:54 ` Jamie Lokier
2004-04-01 16:01 ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-04-01 16:30 ` Jamie Lokier
2004-04-01 16:50 ` Richard B. Johnson
2004-04-01 17:01 ` Jamie Lokier
2004-04-01 21:27 ` Michael Buesch
2004-04-02 0:16 ` Peter Williams
2004-04-02 0:07 ` Peter Williams
2004-04-02 0:39 ` Jamie Lokier
2004-04-02 1:44 ` Peter Williams
2004-04-02 18:28 ` Tim Bird
2004-04-02 22:05 ` Peter Williams
2004-04-01 16:12 ` Albert Cahalan
[not found] <1zkOe-Uc-17@gated-at.bofh.it>
[not found] ` <1zl7M-1eJ-43@gated-at.bofh.it>
[not found] ` <1zn9p-3mW-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
[not found] ` <1znj5-3wM-15@gated-at.bofh.it>
[not found] ` <1AaWr-655-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
2004-03-16 2:27 ` Andi Kleen
2004-03-16 5:53 ` Peter Williams
2004-03-16 6:16 ` Andi Kleen
2004-03-16 23:15 ` Peter Williams
2004-03-16 23:56 ` Andi Kleen
2004-03-17 0:15 ` Peter Williams
2004-03-16 9:16 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2004-03-16 23:45 ` Peter Williams
[not found] <michf@post.tau.ac.il>
2004-03-11 14:17 ` Micha Feigin
2004-03-13 17:24 ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-03-13 19:34 ` John Reiser
2004-03-13 19:38 ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-03-13 22:14 ` Micha Feigin
2004-03-13 22:32 ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-03-14 1:05 ` Micha Feigin
2004-03-14 1:49 ` Andrew Morton
2004-03-14 14:37 ` Micha Feigin
2004-03-16 0:28 ` Peter Williams
2004-03-16 6:33 ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-03-16 23:38 ` Peter Williams
2004-03-20 10:22 ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-03-20 11:28 ` Stefan Smietanowski
2004-03-20 11:41 ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-03-20 23:58 ` Peter Williams
2004-03-21 1:09 ` Tim Schmielau
2004-03-21 1:30 ` Peter Williams
2004-03-21 8:00 ` Kai Henningsen
2004-03-21 10:32 ` Stefan Smietanowski
2004-03-22 22:34 ` Micha Feigin
2004-03-22 23:04 ` Peter Williams
2004-03-25 17:40 ` Jamie Lokier
2004-03-25 23:22 ` Peter Williams
2004-03-27 13:31 ` Jamie Lokier
2004-03-27 23:52 ` Peter Williams
2004-03-28 12:16 ` Jamie Lokier
2004-03-27 21:11 ` Micha Feigin
2004-03-20 23:26 ` Peter Williams
2004-03-13 21:19 ` tabris
2004-03-13 22:10 ` Micha Feigin
2004-03-13 22:41 ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-03-14 1:07 ` Micha Feigin
2004-03-14 18:26 ` John Reiser
2004-03-14 2:45 ` Horst von Brand
2004-03-14 14:39 ` Micha Feigin
2004-03-15 8:17 ` Jamie Lokier
2004-03-16 18:16 ` Mark Gross
2004-03-15 10:13 ` Richard Curnow
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