From: Dave Hansen <haveblue@us.ibm.com>
To: Zoltan.Menyhart@bull.net
Cc: Hirokazu Takahashi <taka@valinux.co.jp>,
linux-ia64@vger.kernel.org,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
iwamoto@valinux.co.jp
Subject: Re: Migrate pages from a ccNUMA node to another - patch
Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2004 08:40:33 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1081179633.8956.2992.camel@nighthawk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4071763E.7293CFCC@nospam.org>
On Mon, 2004-04-05 at 08:07, Zoltan Menyhart wrote:
> Hirokazu Takahashi wrote:
>
> > I guess aruguments src_node, mm and pte would be redundant since
> > they can be looked up from old_p with the reverse mapping scheme.
>
> In my version 0.2, I can do with only the following arguments:
> * node: Destination NUMA node
> * mm: -> victim "mm_struct"
> * pte: -> PTE of the page to be moved
> (If I have "mm" at hand, why not to use it ? Why not to avoid fetching the r-map
> page struct ?)
That's a good point. There is at least some cost (at least 1 lock)
associated with walking the rmap chains. If it can be avoided, it might
as well be.
But, if someone needs the "no walk" interface, just wrap the function:
foo(page)
{
rmap_results = get_rmap_stuff(page);
__foo(page, rmap_results);
}
__foo(page, rmap_results)
{
...
}
> > >Notes: "pte" can be NULL if I do not know it apriori
> > > I cannot release "mm->page_table_lock" otherwise I have to re-scan the "mm->pgd".
> >
> > Re-schan plicy would be much better since migrating pages is heavy work.
> > I don't think that holding mm->page_table_lock for long time would be
> > good idea.
>
> Re-scanning is "cache killer", at least on IA64 with huge user memory size.
> I have more than 512 Mbytes user memory and its PTEs do not fit into the L2 cache.
>
> In my current design, I have the outer loops: PGD, PMD and PTE walking; and once
> I find a valid PTE, I check it against the list of max. 2048 physical addresses as
> the inner loop.
> I reversed them: walking through the list of max. 2048 physical addresses as outer
> loop and the PGD - PMD - PTE scans as inner loops resulted in 4 to 5 times slower
> migration.
Could you explain where you're getting these "magic numbers?" I don't
quite understand the significance of 2048 physical addresses or 512 MB
of memory.
Zoltan, it appears that we have a bit of an inherent conflict with how
much CPU each of you is expecting to use in the removal and migration
cases. You're coming from a HPC environment where each CPU cycle is
valuable, while the people trying to remove memory are probably going to
be taking CPUs offline soon anyway, and care a bit less about how
efficient they're being with CPU and cache resources.
Could you be a bit more explicit about how expensive (cpu-wise) these
migrate operations can be?
-- Dave
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-04-05 15:41 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-03-26 9:18 Migrate pages from a ccNUMA node to another - patch Zoltan Menyhart
2004-03-26 17:20 ` Dave Hansen
2004-03-30 8:27 ` IWAMOTO Toshihiro
2004-03-30 9:05 ` Hirokazu Takahashi
2004-03-30 11:20 ` Zoltan Menyhart
2004-03-30 12:08 ` Hirokazu Takahashi
2004-03-30 14:32 ` Zoltan Menyhart
2004-04-03 2:58 ` Hirokazu Takahashi
2004-04-05 15:07 ` Zoltan Menyhart
2004-04-05 15:40 ` Dave Hansen [this message]
2004-04-06 14:42 ` Migrate pages from a ccNUMA node to another Zoltan Menyhart
2004-04-08 13:32 ` Migrate pages from a ccNUMA node to another - patch Hirokazu Takahashi
2004-03-30 11:39 ` Zoltan Menyhart
2004-03-30 15:18 ` Dave Hansen
2004-03-30 15:58 ` Dave Hansen
2004-03-30 16:37 ` Dave Hansen
2004-04-01 8:44 ` Migrate pages from a ccNUMA node to another Zoltan Menyhart
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