From: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@steeleye.com>
To: David Brownell <david-b@pacbell.net>
Cc: Ian Molton <spyro@f2s.com>,
Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
greg@kroah.com, tony@atomide.com, jamey.hicks@hp.com,
joshua@joshuawise.com
Subject: Re: DMA API issues
Date: 18 Jun 2004 18:07:30 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1087600052.2135.197.camel@mulgrave> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <40D36EDE.2080803@pacbell.net>
On Fri, 2004-06-18 at 17:38, David Brownell wrote:
> James Bottomley wrote:
> > The statement was "That's dma_alloc_coherent at its core ... it should
> > allocate from that 32K region." and what I was pointing out is that not
> > all platforms can treat an on-chip memory region as a real memory area.
>
> But this one can, and it sure seems like the appropriate
> solution. For reasons like the one not quoted above: it's
> a good way to eliminate what would otherwise be a case
> where a dmabounce is needed. And hey wow, it even uses
> the API designed to reduce such DMA "mapping" costs, and
> there are drivers already using it for such purposes.
Well, yes, but the problem: chips have onboard memory is generic. The
proposed solution in the DMA API can't only work on certain platforms.
>
> > That's why we have the iomem accessor functions.
>
> You mentioned ioremap(), which doesn't help here since
> the need is for a block of memory, not just address space,
> and also memcpy_toio(), which just another tool to implement
> the dma bouncing (which is on the "strongly avoid!" list).
>
> As I said, those still don't make dma_alloc_coherent() work.
Right, that's rather the point. The memory you get by doing an ioremap
on this chip area may have to be treated differently from real memory on
some platforms.
That's the fundamental problem of trying to treat it as memory obtained
from dma_alloc_coherent().
James
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-06-18 23:18 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-06-18 18:20 DMA API issues James Bottomley
2004-06-18 18:35 ` Ian Molton
2004-06-18 18:52 ` James Bottomley
2004-06-18 18:57 ` Ian Molton
2004-06-18 19:20 ` David Brownell
2004-06-18 19:44 ` Ian Molton
2004-06-18 19:57 ` James Bottomley
2004-06-18 21:08 ` David Brownell
2004-06-18 21:14 ` James Bottomley
2004-06-18 22:38 ` David Brownell
2004-06-18 23:07 ` James Bottomley [this message]
2004-06-18 23:31 ` Ian Molton
2004-06-19 18:23 ` David Brownell
2004-06-19 20:41 ` Russell King
2004-06-19 21:46 ` James Bottomley
2004-06-19 22:49 ` Ian Molton
2004-06-20 13:37 ` James Bottomley
2004-06-20 15:50 ` Ian Molton
2004-06-20 16:26 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-06-20 16:57 ` Ian Molton
2004-06-20 20:15 ` David Brownell
2004-06-20 16:46 ` James Bottomley
2004-06-20 18:02 ` Oliver Neukum
2004-06-20 19:27 ` James Bottomley
2004-06-20 19:34 ` Oliver Neukum
2004-06-20 20:07 ` David Brownell
2004-06-20 20:18 ` David Brownell
2004-06-20 20:02 ` David Brownell
2004-06-18 23:25 ` Ian Molton
2004-06-18 23:29 ` James Bottomley
2004-06-18 23:51 ` Ian Molton
2004-06-19 0:04 ` James Bottomley
2004-06-19 0:14 ` Ian Molton
2004-06-19 3:49 ` James Bottomley
2004-06-20 20:59 ` Jamey Hicks
2004-06-19 15:11 ` DMA API issues... summary Ian Molton
2004-06-20 20:49 ` Joshua Wise
2004-06-18 19:30 ` DMA API issues James Bottomley
2004-06-18 19:56 ` Ian Molton
2004-06-18 19:22 ` Jamey Hicks
2004-06-18 19:41 ` James Bottomley
2004-06-18 20:02 ` Oliver Neukum
2004-06-18 20:07 ` James Bottomley
2004-06-18 20:14 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-06-18 20:24 ` James Bottomley
2004-06-18 21:20 ` Russell King
2004-06-18 23:20 ` Ian Molton
2004-06-20 18:25 ` Deepak Saxena
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-06-18 16:59 Ian Molton
2004-06-18 18:07 ` Matt Porter
2004-06-18 18:19 ` Ian Molton
2004-06-18 18:58 ` Matt Porter
2004-06-18 18:33 ` Jamey Hicks
2004-06-18 19:21 ` Matt Porter
2004-06-18 19:43 ` Russell King
2004-06-21 13:35 ` Takashi Iwai
2004-06-21 23:08 ` Russell King
2004-06-22 2:06 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-06-22 3:18 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-06-22 3:26 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-06-22 10:40 ` Takashi Iwai
2004-06-23 12:34 ` Russell King
2004-06-23 15:36 ` Takashi Iwai
2004-06-23 15:44 ` Russell King
2004-06-23 16:01 ` Takashi Iwai
2004-06-23 16:10 ` Russell King
2004-06-22 10:48 ` Takashi Iwai
2004-06-18 19:48 ` Jamey Hicks
2004-06-18 21:08 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-06-18 22:12 ` Richard B. Johnson
2004-06-18 23:27 ` Ian Molton
2004-06-18 23:26 ` Ian Molton
2004-06-18 23:30 ` James Bottomley
2004-06-18 23:32 ` Jeff Garzik
[not found] ` <20040619005714.37b68453.spyro@f2s.com>
[not found] ` <40D3838B.2070608@pobox.com>
[not found] ` <20040619011621.4491600a.spyro@f2s.com>
[not found] ` <40D3872F.5010007@pobox.com>
2004-06-19 0:34 ` Ian Molton
2004-06-19 21:15 ` Tony Lindgren
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