From: Lee Revell <rlrevell@joe-job.com>
To: Timothy Miller <miller@techsource.com>
Cc: linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Another dumb question about Voluntary Kernel Preemption Patch
Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2004 16:13:07 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1090786387.14951.75.camel@mindpipe> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <410415E7.3090001@techsource.com>
On Sun, 2004-07-25 at 16:19, Timothy Miller wrote:
> Lee Revell wrote:
> > On Wed, 2004-07-21 at 17:38, Timothy Miller wrote:
> > The vountary kernel preemption patch takes
> > sections that are non-preemptible (aka holding a spinlock) and that
> > would otherwise run for an unbounded time and adds logic to break out of
> > those loops, releasing any locks, in order to allow a higher priority
> > process to run. It is voluntary because even though you are in a
> > non-preemptible section you voluntarily release any locks and yield to a
> > higher priority process. It has nothing to do with the BKL as such.
> >
>
> I'm guessing, then, that if you get preempted, then the function call to
> voluntarily preempt returns a value which tells you whether or not you
> got preempted, so that you know whether or not to clean up the results
> of having your locks broken? (ie. re-lock)
>
> And how does the voluntary-preempt code know which locks to break? All
> of them?
>
If we hit a voluntary preemption point and there is no higher priority
process ready to run, it's a NOOP, the code just continues without
breaking any locks. If there is a runnable higher priority process,
then you have to release all spin locks to become preemptible. This is
handled on a case-by-case basis, depending on what you have locked and
why. When Ingo talks about points in the code being 'latency-aware'
this usually means in practice that we are iterating over some list that
could be very large, so one way to deal with it is to break out of the
loop and release the spinlock after N iterations, where N has to be
determined by benchmarking latencies.
Lee
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2004-07-09 18:26 [announce] [patch] Voluntary Kernel Preemption Patch Ingo Molnar
2004-07-09 19:51 ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-07-09 23:50 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-07-10 0:52 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-07-10 1:02 ` Dave Jones
2004-07-12 10:17 ` Takashi Iwai
2004-07-12 19:36 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-07-13 7:43 ` Takashi Iwai
2004-07-10 6:32 ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-07-10 7:57 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-10 8:10 ` ismail dönmez
2004-07-10 8:28 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-19 10:36 ` [patch] voluntary-preempt 2.6.8-rc2-H4 Ingo Molnar
2004-07-20 1:38 ` Ramón Rey Vicente
2004-07-20 6:02 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-10 15:36 ` [announce] [patch] Voluntary Kernel Preemption Patch Andrea Arcangeli
2004-07-10 12:48 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-10 15:12 ` Con Kolivas
2004-07-10 15:14 ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-07-10 15:18 ` Con Kolivas
2004-07-11 7:07 ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2004-07-11 7:09 ` Con Kolivas
2004-07-11 7:16 ` [announce] [patch] " Zwane Mwaikambo
2004-07-11 9:18 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-11 9:29 ` Con Kolivas
2004-07-10 16:18 ` [announce] [patch] " Con Kolivas
2004-07-11 6:47 ` [ck] " Ingo Molnar
2004-07-11 6:59 ` Con Kolivas
2004-07-11 11:18 ` R. J. Wysocki
2004-07-11 7:09 ` [ck] Re: [announce] [patch] " Zwane Mwaikambo
2004-07-11 14:27 ` Con Kolivas
2004-07-11 14:29 ` Con Kolivas
2004-07-11 14:38 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-11 17:29 ` André Goddard Rosa
2004-07-11 17:49 ` Grzegorz Kulewski
2004-07-11 21:20 ` Con Kolivas
2004-07-11 21:25 ` Grzegorz Kulewski
2004-07-11 20:17 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-12 8:23 ` Voluntary Preemption + concurent games Aivils
2004-07-12 9:51 ` Con Kolivas
2004-07-12 10:45 ` Lenar Lõhmus
2004-07-12 11:52 ` Aivils
2004-07-12 13:35 ` Nick Piggin
2004-07-12 14:15 ` [ck] Re: [announce] [patch] Voluntary Kernel Preemption Patch Chris Friesen
2004-07-12 14:19 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-10 15:58 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-07-09 21:13 ` Redeeman
2004-07-10 8:02 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-10 8:50 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-10 10:55 ` ismail dönmez
2004-07-10 11:26 ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-07-10 12:01 ` ismail dönmez
2004-07-10 12:05 ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-07-10 12:09 ` Nick Piggin
2004-07-10 12:35 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-10 12:58 ` ismail dönmez
2004-07-10 13:55 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-10 14:45 ` Nick Piggin
2004-07-10 14:57 ` ismail dönmez
2004-07-12 10:48 ` Takashi Iwai
2004-07-12 13:09 ` ismail dönmez
2004-07-12 13:14 ` Takashi Iwai
2004-07-09 21:36 ` Torrey Hoffman
2004-07-10 8:23 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-10 1:00 ` Con Kolivas
2004-07-10 1:04 ` Dave Jones
2004-07-10 12:55 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-11 5:25 ` Andrew Morton
2004-07-11 9:32 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-11 9:45 ` Andrew Morton
2004-07-11 9:50 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-11 9:58 ` Andrew Morton
2004-07-11 10:30 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-11 10:42 ` Andrew Morton
2004-07-11 10:59 ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-07-11 11:13 ` Andrew Morton
2004-07-11 18:07 ` Mikulas Patocka
2004-07-12 7:08 ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2004-07-19 10:20 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-11 23:12 ` Robert Love
2004-07-12 22:40 ` Bill Davidsen
2004-07-12 13:24 ` John Stoffel
2004-07-12 22:56 ` [linux-audio-dev] " Lee Revell
2004-07-12 23:31 ` Andrew Morton
2004-07-12 23:58 ` Paul Davis
2004-07-13 0:06 ` Andrew Morton
2004-07-13 0:21 ` Con Kolivas
2004-07-13 1:01 ` [linux-audio-dev] Re: [announce] [patch] " Lee Revell
2004-07-13 7:49 ` Takashi Iwai
2004-07-13 8:12 ` Lee Revell
2004-07-13 0:01 ` Paul Davis
2004-07-13 0:08 ` Andrew Morton
2004-07-13 16:25 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-07-13 18:42 ` Lee Revell
2004-07-13 21:29 ` Andrew Morton
2004-07-13 21:45 ` Lee Revell
2004-07-14 8:51 ` Takashi Iwai
2004-07-14 9:36 ` Lee Revell
2004-07-14 10:48 ` Takashi Iwai
2004-07-14 14:52 ` Lee Revell
2004-07-14 16:29 ` Lee Revell
2004-07-14 10:26 ` Benno Senoner
2004-07-13 18:48 ` Andrew Morton
2004-07-13 21:38 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-07-13 21:54 ` Andrew Morton
2004-07-13 22:01 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-07-13 22:25 ` Andrew Morton
2004-07-13 22:37 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-07-13 22:44 ` Andrew Morton
2004-07-13 22:53 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-07-13 23:06 ` Andrew Morton
2004-07-13 23:18 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-07-13 23:32 ` Andrew Morton
2004-07-14 0:40 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-07-14 0:45 ` Andrew Morton
2004-07-19 11:59 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-09-02 22:03 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-09-02 22:20 ` Andrew Morton
2004-09-02 23:03 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-09-02 23:21 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-13 7:58 ` Takashi Iwai
2004-07-13 0:17 ` Lee Revell
2004-07-13 0:46 ` Andrew Morton
2004-07-13 2:52 ` Lee Revell
2004-07-13 3:59 ` Andrew Morton
2004-07-13 7:57 ` Lee Revell
2004-07-19 10:48 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-19 11:34 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-20 5:38 ` Lee Revell
2004-07-20 6:12 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-20 6:59 ` Lee Revell
2004-07-20 7:11 ` Ingo Molnar
[not found] ` <200407202011.20558.musical_snake@gmx.de>
2004-07-20 19:56 ` Lee Revell
2004-07-20 23:49 ` Benno Senoner
2004-07-21 0:32 ` [linux-audio-dev] " Lee Revell
2004-07-21 1:25 ` Timothy Miller
2004-07-21 21:38 ` Another dumb question about " Timothy Miller
2004-07-24 0:25 ` Lee Revell
2004-07-25 20:19 ` Timothy Miller
2004-07-25 20:13 ` Lee Revell [this message]
2004-07-21 10:53 ` [linux-audio-dev] Re: [announce] [patch] " Florian Schmidt
2004-07-21 11:18 ` Thomas Charbonnel
2004-07-21 12:04 ` pci gfx card / jack xruns / pci latencies (was: Re: [linux-audio-dev] Re: [announce] [patch] Voluntary Kernel Preemption Patch) Florian Schmidt
2004-07-21 17:49 ` [linux-audio-dev] Re: [announce] [patch] Voluntary Kernel Preemption Patch Fernando Pablo Lopez-Lezcano
2004-07-22 22:25 ` Andrew McGregor
2004-07-22 23:16 ` Florian Schmidt
2004-07-21 14:27 ` Benno Senoner
2004-07-20 12:19 ` Jens Axboe
2004-07-20 21:32 ` Lee Revell
2004-07-24 4:07 ` Lee Revell
2004-07-24 5:46 ` Lee Revell
2004-07-24 6:33 ` Lee Revell
2004-07-24 6:43 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-24 22:49 ` Lee Revell
2004-07-24 23:30 ` Lee Revell
2004-07-24 11:27 ` max request size 1024KiB by default? Rudo Thomas
2004-07-24 22:58 ` Lee Revell
2004-07-26 19:29 ` Johannes Stezenbach
2004-07-27 5:15 ` Jens Axboe
2004-07-24 12:41 ` [linux-audio-dev] Re: [announce] [patch] Voluntary Kernel Preemption Patch Mark Lord
2004-07-24 4:58 ` Lee Revell
2004-07-13 8:31 ` Lee Revell
2004-07-13 8:43 ` Andrew Morton
2004-07-13 8:53 ` Lee Revell
2004-07-13 9:00 ` Andrew Morton
2004-07-13 9:21 ` Takashi Iwai
2004-07-13 9:25 ` Andrew Morton
2004-07-13 9:33 ` Takashi Iwai
2004-07-13 9:44 ` Andrew Morton
2004-07-13 9:23 ` Lee Revell
2004-07-13 9:29 ` Andrew Morton
2004-07-13 20:37 ` Lee Revell
2004-07-13 22:32 ` Lee Revell
2004-07-13 8:07 ` Takashi Iwai
2004-07-13 22:40 ` Bill Davidsen
2004-07-13 23:47 ` Randy.Dunlap
2004-07-19 10:29 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-21 3:27 ` Lee Revell
2004-07-21 7:03 ` Andrew Morton
2004-07-21 4:58 ` Lee Revell
2004-07-21 5:30 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-21 6:03 ` Lee Revell
2004-07-21 8:22 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-21 8:52 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-21 11:32 ` Nick Piggin
2004-07-21 15:44 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-22 4:56 ` Nick Piggin
2004-07-22 7:07 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-22 10:54 ` Nick Piggin
2004-07-22 16:23 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-22 22:11 ` Nick Piggin
2004-07-23 5:47 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-23 6:45 ` Nick Piggin
2004-07-23 6:55 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-23 7:11 ` Nick Piggin
2004-07-23 7:21 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-23 7:28 ` Nick Piggin
2004-07-21 18:34 ` Scott Wood
2004-07-21 18:46 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-21 19:56 ` Scott Wood
2004-07-21 21:08 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-22 2:47 ` Scott Wood
2004-07-21 21:45 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-22 2:28 ` Scott Wood
2004-07-22 7:40 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-22 18:53 ` Scott Wood
2004-07-22 19:45 ` Bill Huey
2004-07-28 6:45 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-28 20:52 ` Scott Wood
2004-07-29 18:21 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-29 18:36 ` Bill Huey
2004-07-29 19:17 ` Scott Wood
2004-07-29 19:25 ` Bill Huey
2004-07-30 2:23 ` Eric St-Laurent
2004-07-29 20:26 ` Pavel Machek
2004-07-29 20:57 ` Scott Wood
2004-07-29 21:00 ` Pavel Machek
2004-07-29 21:07 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-21 22:52 ` Nick Piggin
2004-07-21 18:32 ` Scott Wood
2004-07-21 20:40 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-21 18:30 ` Scott Wood
2004-07-21 18:43 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-22 2:32 ` Scott Wood
2004-07-22 9:51 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-22 18:36 ` Scott Wood
2004-07-22 19:11 ` Robert Love
2004-07-21 21:00 ` Scott Wood
2004-07-21 21:18 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-21 22:14 ` Bill Huey
2004-07-21 22:31 ` Bill Huey
2004-07-21 22:37 ` Scott Wood
2004-07-22 10:06 ` [patch] voluntary-preempt-2.6.8-rc2-H9 Ingo Molnar
2004-07-22 16:00 ` scheduling while atomic (Re: voluntary-preempt-2.6.8-rc2-H9) Rudo Thomas
2004-07-22 16:19 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-22 17:24 ` voluntary-preempt I0: sluggish feel Rudo Thomas
2004-07-22 17:52 ` Matt Heler
2004-07-22 17:54 ` Rudo Thomas
2004-07-22 18:01 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-22 18:08 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-22 18:14 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-22 18:37 ` Rudo Thomas
2004-07-23 10:42 ` [patch] voluntary-preempt-2.6.8-rc2-I3 Ingo Molnar
2004-07-23 10:58 ` Paolo Ciarrocchi
2004-07-23 11:04 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-23 11:28 ` [patch] voluntary-preempt-2.6.8-rc2-I4 Ingo Molnar
2004-07-24 0:16 ` Lee Revell
2004-07-23 11:42 ` [patch] voluntary-preempt-2.6.8-rc2-I3 Paolo Ciarrocchi
2004-07-23 12:00 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-23 15:36 ` Dang, Linh [CAR:2X23:EXCH]
2004-07-23 23:48 ` Thomas Charbonnel
2004-07-26 11:10 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-26 12:27 ` Thomas Charbonnel
2004-07-22 18:31 ` voluntary-preempt I0: sluggish feel Robert Love
2004-07-22 18:32 ` Rudo Thomas
2004-07-22 18:38 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-22 18:00 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-21 6:07 ` [linux-audio-dev] Re: [announce] [patch] Voluntary Kernel Preemption Patch Lee Revell
2004-07-21 10:14 ` Roger Luethi
2004-07-13 0:58 ` Jan Depner
2004-07-13 1:00 ` Andrew Morton
2004-07-13 3:31 ` Florin Andrei
2004-07-13 6:31 ` Paul Winkler
2004-07-13 13:26 ` Benno Senoner
2004-07-13 14:50 ` Paul Davis
2004-07-13 19:45 ` Lee Revell
2004-07-13 22:17 ` Bill Davidsen
2004-07-16 4:50 ` Florin Andrei
2004-07-16 12:49 ` Takashi Iwai
2004-07-13 21:53 ` Timothy Miller
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