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From: Lee Revell <rlrevell@joe-job.com>
To: karim@opersys.com
Cc: Scott Wood <scott@timesys.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	"La Monte H.P. Yarroll" <piggy@timesys.com>,
	Manas Saksena <manas.saksena@timesys.com>,
	Philippe Gerum <rpm@xenomai.org>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [patch] IRQ threads
Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 14:28:47 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1091039327.747.26.camel@mindpipe> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4107CA18.4060204@opersys.com>

On Wed, 2004-07-28 at 11:45, Karim Yaghmour wrote:
> Scott Wood wrote:
> > I have attached a patch for implementing IRQ handlers in threads, for
> > latency-reduction purposes.  It requires that softirqs must be run in
> > threads (or else they could end up running inside the IRQ threads,
> > which will at the very least trigger bugs due to in_irq() being set). 
> > I've tested it with Ingo's voluntary-preempt J7 patch, and it should
> > work with the TimeSys softirq thread patch as well (though you might
> > get a conflict with the PF_IRQHANDLER definition; just merge them
> > into one).
> 
> My experience with clients who have been using TimeSys' stuff has been
> abysmal. The fact of the of the matter is that most people who used
> this were practically locked-in to TimeSys' services, unable to download
> anything "standard" off the net and using it with their kernel. In one
> example, we had to ditch the kernel the client got from TimeSys because
> we had spent 10+ hours trying to get LTT to work on it without any
> success whatsoever.
> 
> As I had said on other lists before, I don't see the point of creating
> that much complexity in the kernel in order to try to shave-off a little
> bit more off of the kernel's interrupt response time. The fact of the
> matter is that neither this patch nor most of the other patches suggested
> makes the kernel truely hard-rt. These patches only make the kernel
> respond "faster". If you really need hard-rt, then you should be using
> the Adeos nanokernel. With Adeos, you can even get a hard-rt driver
> without using RTAI or any of the other rt derivatives.
> 

This is obvious FUD from someone who is selling something.  Please keep
this crap off LKML.

Lee


  reply	other threads:[~2004-07-28 18:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-07-27 22:50 [patch] IRQ threads Scott Wood
2004-07-28  6:27 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-28 15:38   ` Karim Yaghmour
2004-07-28 16:01     ` Karim Yaghmour
2004-07-28 21:23   ` Bill Huey
2004-07-28 21:35     ` Scott Wood
2004-07-29 21:08       ` Bill Huey
2004-07-29 22:44       ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-28 23:24   ` Scott Wood
2004-07-28  8:10 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-28 23:12   ` Scott Wood
2004-07-29 19:33     ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-29 20:21       ` Scott Wood
2004-07-29 21:12         ` Alan Cox
2004-07-28 15:45 ` Karim Yaghmour
2004-07-28 18:28   ` Lee Revell [this message]
2004-07-28 19:12     ` Karim Yaghmour
2004-07-28 19:33       ` Lee Revell
2004-07-28 19:57         ` Karim Yaghmour
2004-07-28 20:35           ` Lee Revell
2004-07-28 21:15             ` Karim Yaghmour
2004-07-28 21:43               ` Lee Revell
2004-07-28 21:38                 ` Karim Yaghmour
2004-07-28 20:21         ` Bill Huey
2004-07-28 20:42           ` Lee Revell
2004-07-28 20:46             ` Bill Huey
2004-07-28 21:48           ` Karim Yaghmour
2004-07-28 22:30             ` Bill Huey
2004-07-28 22:03           ` Philippe Gerum
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-07-29 20:33 Albert Cahalan

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