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From: Albert Cahalan <albert@users.sf.net>
To: linux-kernel mailing list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Cc: alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk, dwmw2@infradead.org,
	schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de, axboe@suse.de
Subject: Re: PATCH: cdrecord: avoiding scsi device numbering for ide devices
Date: 09 Aug 2004 16:22:01 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1092082920.5761.266.camel@cube> (raw)

Alan Cox writes:
> On Llu, 2004-08-09 at 15:12, Joerg Schilling wrote:
>> [Alan Cox writes]

>>> Linux has capabilities, ACLs and SELinux rulesets which
>>> can also be used to manage this. I can give the cd burner
>>> a role that permits it certain things.
>> 
>> If you are right, why then is SuSE removing the warnings
>> in cdrecord that are there to tell the user that cdrecord
>> is running with insufficient privilleges?
>
> You'd have to ask them. Probably for the reason that most vendors
> remove a lot of the other weird warnings - it confuses end users.

Oh dear my. I'm going to, at least partially, agree with Joerg.
Pigs are cleared for take-off.

The warning about "cdrecord dev=/dev/hdc" is truly crap.
The same goes for "unsettled issues with Linux-2.5". The
other warnings are sane though, and should not be removed.

If the warnings are confusing, they need to be re-worded.
When you remove warnings, users get hurt. The users do  
things that may well fail, and then have no clue why things
are failing.

Shall we rip the printk() calls out of the kernel? Many
of them are weird. They might confuse the end users.

Joerg:
   "WARNING: Cannot do mlockall(2).\n"
   "WARNING: This causes a high risk for buffer underruns.\n"
Fixed:
   "Warning: You don't have permission to lock memory.\n"
   "         If the computer is not idle, the CD may be ruined.\n"

Joerg:
   "WARNING: Cannot set priority class parameters priocntl(PC_SETPARMS)\n"
   "WARNING: This causes a high risk for buffer underruns.\n"
Fixed:
   "Warning: You don't have permission to hog the CPU.\n"
   "         If the computer is not idle, the CD may be ruined.\n"



             reply	other threads:[~2004-08-09 22:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 394+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-08-09 20:22 Albert Cahalan [this message]
2004-08-09 22:59 ` PATCH: cdrecord: avoiding scsi device numbering for ide devices Con Kolivas
2004-08-09 23:25   ` David Lang
2004-08-10  1:01   ` Albert Cahalan
2004-08-10  4:47     ` Con Kolivas
2004-08-10  2:51       ` Albert Cahalan
2004-08-10  7:02         ` Thomas Zimmerman
2004-08-10  8:20         ` Måns Rullgård
2004-08-10 22:59         ` Jan Knutar
2004-08-11  1:09           ` Albert Cahalan
2004-08-12 22:34       ` Bill Davidsen
2004-08-12 23:29         ` Måns Rullgård
2004-08-13  7:01           ` Jens Axboe
2004-08-10  8:16     ` Måns Rullgård
2004-08-10 14:33       ` Lee Revell
2004-08-10 15:04         ` Alan Cox
2004-08-10 16:09           ` Lee Revell
2004-08-11  0:23         ` Måns Rullgård
2004-08-11  3:07           ` Lee Revell
2004-08-11  7:28             ` Måns Rullgård
2004-08-11  7:34               ` Lee Revell
2004-08-12 22:15   ` Bill Davidsen
2004-08-10  7:59 ` David Woodhouse
2004-08-10  9:42   ` Måns Rullgård
2004-08-12 22:40     ` Bill Davidsen
2004-08-12 23:10       ` Måns Rullgård
2004-08-10  9:52   ` Matthias Andree
2004-08-10 10:03     ` Prakash K. Cheemplavam
2004-08-10 10:07     ` Prakash K. Cheemplavam
2004-08-10  9:48 ` Matthias Andree
2004-08-10 22:34 ` Jan Knutar
     [not found] <2ptdY-42Y-55@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found] ` <2uPdM-380-11@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]   ` <2uUwL-6VP-11@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]     ` <2uWfh-8jo-29@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]       ` <2uXl0-Gt-27@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]         ` <2vge2-63k-15@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]           ` <2vgQF-6Ai-39@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]             ` <2vipq-7O8-15@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]               ` <2vj2b-8md-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]                 ` <2vDtS-bq-19@gated-at.bofh.it>
2004-08-21 15:01                   ` Pascal Schmidt
2004-08-21 15:57                     ` Joerg Schilling
2004-08-21 21:42                       ` Pascal Schmidt
2004-08-22 11:56                       ` Joerg Schilling
2004-08-22 12:14                         ` Joerg Schilling
2004-08-22 12:52                           ` Patrick McFarland
2004-08-22 13:05                             ` Joerg Schilling
2004-08-22 16:38                               ` Horst von Brand
2004-08-22 15:11                           ` Horst von Brand
2004-08-22 18:09                             ` Matthias Andree
2004-08-22 13:13                         ` Pascal Schmidt
2004-08-22 16:00                           ` Christer Weinigel
2004-08-22 16:32                             ` Joerg Schilling
2004-08-22 17:18                               ` Christer Weinigel
2004-08-22 20:27                               ` Giuseppe Bilotta
2004-08-22 21:29                               ` Julien Oster
2004-08-23 11:40                                 ` Joerg Schilling
2004-08-23 13:15                                   ` Matthias Andree
2004-08-23 18:16                               ` Kai Makisara
2004-08-24 10:22                                 ` Christer Weinigel
2004-08-24 15:34                                 ` Joerg Schilling
2004-08-22 16:33                             ` Christer Weinigel
2004-08-22 16:19                               ` Alan Cox
2004-08-22 17:31                                 ` Christer Weinigel
2004-08-22 20:47                                   ` Alan Cox
2004-08-22 22:17                                     ` Christer Weinigel
2004-08-23 12:22                                 ` Adam Sampson
2004-08-22 19:26                             ` Tonnerre
2004-08-23 20:25                               ` Bill Davidsen
2004-08-23 21:01                                 ` Doug Maxey
2004-08-25 18:29                                   ` Bill Davidsen
2004-08-24  2:22                                 ` Nuno Silva
2004-08-22 21:27                           ` Julien Oster
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-08-13 11:45 Joerg Schilling
2004-08-13 12:21 ` Andreas Schwab
     [not found] <20040812185302.GA18126@suse.de>
2004-08-13  2:39 ` Robert M. Stockmann
2004-08-13  5:24   ` Frank Steiner
2004-08-13 13:34     ` Robert M. Stockmann
2004-08-13 13:48       ` Jens Axboe
2004-08-13 23:50         ` Robert M. Stockmann
2004-08-16  6:48           ` Frank Steiner
2004-08-13  6:08   ` Jens Axboe
2004-08-16 12:41   ` Patrick McFarland
2004-08-16 12:47     ` Robert M. Stockmann
2004-08-16 12:51       ` Patrick McFarland
2004-08-16 13:32         ` Robert M. Stockmann
2004-08-17  4:01           ` Kyle Moffett
2004-08-18  0:32             ` Robert M. Stockmann
2004-08-18  5:16               ` Eric Lammerts
2004-08-18 13:43                 ` Robert M. Stockmann
2004-08-18 14:02                   ` Frank Steiner
2004-08-12  2:24 Robert M. Stockmann
2004-08-12  6:28 ` Frank Steiner
2004-08-12 13:55   ` Robert M. Stockmann
2004-08-12 14:15     ` Frank Steiner
2004-08-12  1:57 Robert M. Stockmann
2004-08-12  4:05 ` Andre Tomt
2004-08-16 18:11 ` Tomasz Torcz
2004-08-11 11:44 Joerg Schilling
2004-08-10 21:48 Joerg Schilling
2004-08-10 21:33 Joerg Schilling
2004-08-11  7:56 ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2004-08-11 14:30 ` Brian Beattie
2004-08-10 15:54 Joerg Schilling
2004-08-10 15:44 Joerg Schilling
2004-08-10 16:05 ` Richard B. Johnson
2004-08-11  8:25   ` Patrick McFarland
2004-08-10 18:48 ` Jens Axboe
2004-08-10 15:28 Joerg Schilling
2004-08-11  9:34 ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2004-08-10 15:15 Joerg Schilling
2004-08-10 15:25 ` David Woodhouse
2004-08-10 15:36 ` Martin Mares
2004-08-11  2:17 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-08-11 23:05   ` Patrick McFarland
2004-08-10 14:27 Joerg Schilling
2004-08-10 14:49 ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2004-08-10 15:24   ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2004-08-10 15:33     ` Jens Axboe
2004-08-10 16:29       ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2004-08-10 18:53         ` Jens Axboe
2004-08-10 19:01         ` Adrian Bunk
2004-08-10 20:29           ` Jens Axboe
2004-08-10 15:48     ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2004-08-10 16:10       ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2004-08-10 16:47         ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2004-08-10 16:52           ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2004-08-10 13:21 Joerg Schilling
2004-08-10 13:05 Joerg Schilling
2004-08-10 13:03 Joerg Schilling
2004-08-10 15:00 ` David Woodhouse
2004-08-10 15:05   ` Chris Meadors
2004-08-26 15:02     ` Raphael Jacquot
2004-08-26 15:19       ` Chris Meadors
2004-08-10 21:02 ` Martin Schlemmer
2004-08-10 12:47 Joerg Schilling
2004-08-10 12:57 ` David Woodhouse
2004-08-10 12:46 Joerg Schilling
2004-08-10 12:57 ` Martin Mares
2004-08-10 13:09 ` Xavier Bestel
2004-08-10 13:18 ` Kyle Moffett
2004-08-10 12:45 Joerg Schilling
2004-08-10 12:57 ` Martin Mares
2004-08-10 13:51 ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2004-08-10 12:41 Joerg Schilling
2004-08-10 13:27 ` Matthias Andree
2004-08-10 10:33 Joerg Schilling
2004-08-10 13:42 ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2004-08-10 10:27 Joerg Schilling
2004-08-10 11:57 ` Martin Mares
2004-08-10 12:46 ` David Woodhouse
2004-08-12 22:58   ` Bill Davidsen
2004-08-10 16:28 ` Gene Heskett
2004-08-11  0:24   ` Matthias Andree
2004-08-11  3:11     ` Gene Heskett
2004-08-11 10:04     ` Florian Schirmer
2004-08-12 23:27       ` Bill Davidsen
2004-08-10 10:20 Joerg Schilling
2004-08-10 10:19 Joerg Schilling
2004-08-10 12:14 ` Martin Mares
2004-08-10 15:02 ` Lenar Lõhmus
     [not found] <200408091338.i79DcauL010369@burner.fokus.fraunhofer.de>
2004-08-09 21:10 ` Con Kolivas
2004-08-09 14:57 Joerg Schilling
2004-08-09 14:43 Joerg Schilling
2004-08-10  9:38 ` Matthias Andree
2004-08-09 14:40 Joerg Schilling
2004-08-09 14:51 ` David Woodhouse
2004-08-09 16:26 ` Patrick McFarland
2004-08-09 14:38 Joerg Schilling
2004-08-09 14:44 ` Jens Axboe
2004-08-09 14:27 Joerg Schilling
2004-08-09 14:31 ` Jens Axboe
2004-08-09 14:21 Joerg Schilling
2004-08-09 14:23 ` Jens Axboe
2004-08-09 15:40 ` David Woodhouse
2004-08-09 20:52   ` Patrick McFarland
2004-08-09 14:13 Joerg Schilling
2004-08-09 14:21 ` Paul Jakma
2004-08-09 14:21 ` Jens Axboe
2004-08-09 14:12 Joerg Schilling
2004-08-09 14:21 ` David Woodhouse
2004-08-12 22:10   ` Bill Davidsen
2004-08-13  2:34     ` Bob Tracy
2004-08-09 14:33 ` Alan Cox
2004-08-09 13:51 Joerg Schilling
2004-08-09 14:08 ` Jens Axboe
2004-08-09 13:46 Joerg Schilling
2004-08-09 14:24 ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2004-08-10  9:25 ` Matthias Andree
2004-08-09 13:36 Joerg Schilling
2004-08-09 13:54 ` Marc Ballarin
2004-08-09 14:17 ` Jens Axboe
2004-08-09 12:24 Joerg Schilling
2004-08-09 12:39 ` Karol Kozimor
2004-08-09 13:00 ` Måns Rullgård
2004-08-09 13:01 ` Alan Cox
2004-08-09 14:07   ` Jens Axboe
2004-08-09 14:36 ` Eric Lammerts
2004-08-09 12:10 Joerg Schilling
2004-08-09 12:05 Joerg Schilling
2004-08-09 14:03 ` Paul Jakma
2004-08-09 11:58 Joerg Schilling
2004-08-09 14:32 ` Alan Cox
2004-08-09 11:56 Joerg Schilling
2004-08-09 10:42 ` Albert Cahalan
2004-08-09 11:46 Joerg Schilling
2004-08-09 11:53 ` Jens Axboe
2004-08-09 10:33 Joerg Schilling
2004-08-09 10:39 ` David Woodhouse
2004-08-09 10:13 Joerg Schilling
2004-08-09 10:21 ` Jens Axboe
2004-08-09 12:01   ` Måns Rullgård
2004-08-09 11:09 ` Con Kolivas
2004-08-09 12:04 ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2004-08-09 12:12   ` Jens Axboe
2004-08-09 12:06 ` Jesse Stockall
2004-08-10  9:12 ` Matthias Andree
2004-08-08 16:40 Albert Cahalan
2004-08-08  8:21 Joerg Schilling
2004-08-07 19:53 Albert Cahalan
2004-08-07 23:16 ` Måns Rullgård
2004-08-07 12:17 Joerg Schilling
2004-08-07 16:37 ` Nicholas Miell
2004-08-07 17:18 ` Nicholas Miell
2004-08-07 17:19 ` Frediano Ziglio
2004-08-07 17:37 ` V13
2004-08-09  8:13 ` Thomas Richter
2004-08-09 11:44   ` Gene Heskett
2004-08-09 10:53 ` Helge Hafting
2004-08-09 12:07   ` Måns Rullgård
2004-08-07 11:28 Joerg Schilling
2004-08-07 11:40 ` Martin Mares
2004-08-08  5:53   ` Linus Torvalds
2004-08-08 13:39     ` Thomas Molina
2004-08-07 12:54 ` Jesper Juhl
2004-08-07 10:53 Joerg Schilling
2004-08-07 11:19 ` Martin Mares
2004-08-08  4:07 ` Paul Jakma
2004-08-07  0:01 Joerg Schilling
2004-08-07  0:14 ` Martin Mares
2004-08-07 17:26   ` Tim Wright
2004-08-08 21:42     ` Buddy Lumpkin
2004-08-12 21:11     ` Bill Davidsen
2004-08-12 21:10       ` Martin Mares
2004-08-12 22:44       ` Marc Ballarin
2004-08-07  2:11 ` Mark Lord
2004-08-07 22:08 ` Alan Cox
2004-08-07 22:41   ` Alan Cox
2004-08-07 23:19   ` Måns Rullgård
2004-08-08  2:33     ` Jan Knutar
2004-08-08  7:47       ` David Weinehall
2004-08-08  9:17         ` Måns Rullgård
2004-08-06 20:26 Albert Cahalan
2004-08-06 23:35 ` Bernd Schubert
2004-08-06 14:20 Joerg Schilling
2004-08-06 14:25 ` Jens Axboe
2004-08-06 14:48 ` Erik Mouw
2004-08-06 13:45 Joerg Schilling
2004-08-06 14:11 ` Jens Axboe
2004-08-06 14:16 ` Erik Mouw
2004-08-06 13:30 Joerg Schilling
2004-08-06 15:10 ` Jens Axboe
2004-08-10  8:41   ` Matthias Andree
2004-08-10  8:50     ` Jens Axboe
2004-08-10 10:11     ` Erik Mouw
2004-08-10 10:12       ` Jens Axboe
2004-08-10 11:02         ` Erik Mouw
2004-08-10 11:49       ` Måns Rullgård
2004-08-10 13:29         ` Matthias Andree
2004-08-11 22:37           ` Patrick McFarland
2004-08-06 23:15 ` Martin Mares
2004-08-07 10:31   ` V13
2004-08-12 21:03     ` Bill Davidsen
2004-08-08 16:45 ` James Bottomley
2004-08-08 17:31 ` Eric Lammerts
2004-08-06 10:18 Joerg Schilling
2004-08-06 10:42 ` Jens Axboe
2004-08-06 11:37   ` Jens Axboe
2004-08-06 17:59 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2004-08-06 22:47   ` H. Peter Anvin
2004-08-08 11:15     ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2004-08-08 18:58       ` Julien Oster
2004-08-06  8:33 Joerg Schilling
2004-08-06  9:01 ` Eduard Bloch
2004-08-06  9:14 ` David Woodhouse
2004-08-06 10:40 ` DervishD
2004-08-06 22:42   ` H. Peter Anvin
2004-08-10  8:15 ` Matthias Andree
2004-08-06  8:14 Joerg Schilling
2004-08-06  8:24 ` David Woodhouse
2004-08-06  8:28 ` Frank Steiner
2004-08-06  8:09 Joerg Schilling
2004-08-05 13:48 Joerg Schilling
2004-08-05 15:00 ` Jens Axboe
2004-08-07 15:00   ` James Bottomley
2004-08-07 15:33     ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-08-05 12:49 Joerg Schilling
2004-08-05 12:57 ` Jens Axboe
2004-08-05 12:45 Joerg Schilling
2004-08-05 16:40 ` David Woodhouse
2004-08-05 12:30 Joerg Schilling
2004-08-05 12:38 ` Jens Axboe
2004-08-05 12:47   ` Jens Axboe
2004-08-05 12:25 Joerg Schilling
2004-08-05 12:29 ` Jens Axboe
2004-08-05 16:45 ` Wakko Warner
2004-08-05 17:32   ` Måns Rullgård
2004-08-05 12:22 Joerg Schilling
2004-08-05 11:53 Joerg Schilling
2004-08-05 12:05 ` Jens Axboe
2004-08-05 11:50 Joerg Schilling
2004-08-04 12:33 H.Rosmanith (Kernel Mailing List)
2004-08-04 12:43 ` Jens Axboe
2004-08-04 12:58   ` Jens Axboe
2004-08-05  0:56     ` H.Rosmanith (Kernel Mailing List)
2004-08-05  5:47       ` Jens Axboe
2004-08-05  0:25   ` H.Rosmanith (Kernel Mailing List)
2004-08-05  5:43     ` Jens Axboe
2004-08-19  7:04 ` Patrick McFarland
2004-08-19 11:12   ` Wakko Warner
2004-08-19 11:32   ` Lee Revell
2004-08-19 11:43     ` Marc Ballarin
2004-08-19 12:06     ` Diego Calleja
2004-08-19 13:04       ` Joerg Schilling
2004-08-20 15:10         ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2004-08-23  9:09           ` Joerg Schilling
2004-08-23 21:25         ` Adrian Bunk
2004-08-19 12:42   ` Joerg Schilling
2004-08-19 12:41     ` Alan Cox
2004-08-19 14:34       ` Frank Steiner
2004-08-20  8:02         ` Patrick McFarland
2004-08-20 14:05           ` Joerg Schilling
2004-08-20 16:43             ` Christer Weinigel
2004-08-19 14:35       ` Christer Weinigel
2004-08-19 13:10     ` Martin Mares
2004-08-19 13:38       ` Joerg Schilling
2004-08-19 13:56         ` Martin Mares
2004-08-19 14:03           ` Joerg Schilling
2004-08-19 14:14             ` Martin Mares
2004-08-19 14:45               ` Frank Steiner
2004-08-19 15:00                 ` Martin Mares
2004-08-19 15:04                   ` Joerg Schilling
2004-08-19 15:14                     ` Martin Mares
2004-08-19 15:18                       ` Joerg Schilling
2004-08-19 17:32                         ` Martin Mares
2004-08-20 18:25                   ` Martin Schlemmer
2004-08-19 15:07               ` Matthias Andree
2004-08-19 15:16                 ` Joerg Schilling
2004-08-19 17:30                   ` Martin Mares
2004-08-20 15:28                   ` Andreas Jaeger
2004-08-20 16:37                     ` Julien Oster
2004-08-19 15:36                 ` Gene Heskett
2004-08-19 16:00                   ` Paul Rolland
2004-08-19 17:41                     ` Gene Heskett
2004-08-19 14:29             ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-08-19 15:29           ` Andreas Jaeger
     [not found]       ` <Pine.LNX.4.60.0408191909570.23309@hermes-1.csi.cam.ac.uk>
2004-08-20 13:40         ` Joerg Schilling
2004-08-19 14:14     ` Gerd Knorr
2004-08-19 14:32     ` Frank Steiner
2004-08-19 14:32       ` Alan Cox
2004-08-19 16:00         ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2004-08-19 16:07           ` Joerg Schilling
2004-08-19 17:32             ` Horst von Brand
2004-08-19 23:02               ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2004-08-20 13:37               ` Joerg Schilling
2004-08-20 13:49                 ` Patrick McFarland
2004-08-20 14:13                   ` Joerg Schilling
2004-08-19 17:59             ` Alan Cox
2004-08-20 13:41               ` Joerg Schilling
2004-08-20 13:09                 ` Alan Cox
2004-08-20 13:55                 ` Patrick McFarland
2004-08-20 14:24                 ` H.Rosmanith (Kernel Mailing List)
2004-08-20 14:37                   ` Joerg Schilling
2004-08-20 15:05                     ` Richard B. Johnson
2004-08-20 19:28                 ` Martin Schlemmer
2004-08-20 20:30                   ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-08-20 22:05                 ` Kyle Moffett
2004-08-20 23:30                   ` Andreas Steinmetz
2004-08-21  6:58                   ` David Greaves
2004-08-21  7:49                     ` Marc Ballarin
2004-08-21  9:04                       ` David Greaves
2004-08-21 11:19                         ` Marc Ballarin
2004-08-22 10:44                         ` Alan Cox
2004-08-22 17:09                           ` Adam Sampson
2004-08-21 11:06                     ` Xavier Bestel
2004-08-21 12:17                       ` David Greaves
2004-08-19 17:24           ` Horst von Brand
2004-08-19 18:06           ` Alan Cox
2004-08-19 19:19             ` Mark Lord
2004-08-19 22:57               ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2004-08-20 11:22                 ` Alan Cox
2004-08-20 11:18               ` Alan Cox
2004-08-20  7:46         ` Frank Steiner
2004-08-20 11:23           ` Alan Cox
2004-08-20 12:45             ` Frank Steiner
2004-08-20 11:51         ` Joerg Schilling
2004-08-20 11:25           ` Alan Cox
2004-08-20 14:11             ` Joerg Schilling
2004-08-20 13:46               ` Alan Cox
2004-08-21 12:43                 ` Joerg Schilling
     [not found]                   ` <1093171538.24341.24.camel@localhost.localdomain>
2004-08-22 12:00                     ` Joerg Schilling
2004-08-19 16:22   ` V13
2004-08-21  3:31 ` Patrick McFarland

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