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From: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@SteelEye.com>
To: Nathan Bryant <nbryant@optonline.net>
Cc: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>,
	Linux SCSI Reflector <linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux Kernel list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] SCSI midlayer power management
Date: 11 Aug 2004 08:37:41 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1092231462.2087.3.camel@mulgrave> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <411A1B72.1010302@optonline.net>

On Wed, 2004-08-11 at 08:13, Nathan Bryant wrote:
> No. Remember that DMA works differently under SCSI than it does under 
> IDE. SCSI DMA is a host controller feature, whereas under IDE it is 
> enabled/disabled at the drive level and the drives have special 
> knowledge of DMA. Since generic_scsi_suspend() is the device level 
> suspend routine, it is called before the host controller's suspend 
> routine, (due to depth first traversal of device tree), which is 
> responsible for disabling the PCI slot. Only after the host controller 
> is suspended will there be no DMA, but if your real question is "can I 
> generically control a SCSI disk with PIO for software suspend" then the 
> answer is NO. For purposes of not suspending the drivers, I haven't 
> looked into how swsusp would see which host adapter owns which drive, 
> but some of the required information seems to be present in sysfs.

Actually, the answer is to most intents and purposes "yes".  You are
technically correct: there's no way to disable DMA in SCSI.  However,
once a device is quiesced, it has no outstanding commands, so there will
be no outstanding DMA to that device.  When all devices on a host have
been quiesced, then there will be no DMA at all going on *except* if the
user initiates any via another interface (like sending a device probe or
doing a unit scan).  The guarantee should be strong enough for swsusp to
proceed, but we can look at quiescing a host properly (however, we'd
need to move to a better host state model than we currently possess).

James



  reply	other threads:[~2004-08-11 13:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-08-10 23:58 [PATCH] SCSI midlayer power management Nathan Bryant
2004-08-11  8:09 ` Pavel Machek
2004-08-11 13:13   ` Nathan Bryant
2004-08-11 13:37     ` James Bottomley [this message]
2004-08-11 15:21       ` Alan Cox
2004-08-11 16:28         ` James Bottomley
2004-08-11 16:43           ` Nathan Bryant
2004-08-11 23:36       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-08-12  7:45         ` Pavel Machek
2004-08-12 10:38           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-08-12 12:48         ` James Bottomley
2004-08-12 13:14           ` Pavel Machek
2004-08-12 16:29             ` James Bottomley
2004-08-12 19:11               ` Pavel Machek
2004-08-12 19:34                 ` James Bottomley
2004-08-12 20:26                   ` Pavel Machek
2004-08-12 20:31                     ` James Bottomley
2004-08-12 20:37                       ` Pavel Machek
2004-08-12 20:42                         ` James Bottomley
2004-08-12 20:48                           ` Pavel Machek
2004-08-12 20:52                           ` Nathan Bryant
2004-08-12 20:40                       ` Nathan Bryant
2004-08-12 23:05                       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-08-12 22:36                   ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-08-12 22:43                     ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-08-12 23:04                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-08-12 13:41           ` Nathan Bryant
2004-08-12 16:45             ` Patrick Mansfield
2004-08-12 23:02           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-08-11 20:19     ` Pavel Machek
2004-08-11 20:50       ` Nathan Bryant
2004-08-11 22:16     ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-08-11 22:48       ` Nathan Bryant
2004-08-12  7:43         ` Pavel Machek
2004-08-12  9:39         ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-08-12 13:43           ` Nathan Bryant
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-08-16 13:29 James.Smart
2004-08-10 23:56 Nathan Bryant
2004-08-11  9:53 ` Alan Cox
2004-08-11 12:55   ` Nathan Bryant
2004-08-11 13:39   ` James Bottomley

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