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From: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
To: Jon Smirl <jonsmirl@yahoo.com>
Cc: Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>, Jesse Barnes <jbarnes@engr.sgi.com>,
	Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
	Martin Mares <mj@ucw.cz>,
	linux-pci@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Petr Vandrovec <VANDROVE@vc.cvut.cz>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] add PCI ROMs to sysfs
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2004 12:51:32 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1092311491.21995.19.camel@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040811233148.13248.qmail@web14925.mail.yahoo.com>

On Iau, 2004-08-12 at 00:31, Jon Smirl wrote:
> How are we supposed to implement this without a copy? Once the device
> driver is loaded there is never a safe way access the ROM again because
> an interrupt or another CPU might use the PCI decoders to access the
> other hardware and disrupt the ROM read. You have to copy the ROM when
> the driver says it is safe.

It's never safe essentially. The only way you can make it safe for this
case is to put the knowledge in the device driver for that specific card
rather than sysfs.

> Still another scheme would be to make the drivers for this class of
> card implement a lock around PCI address decoder use. That would get
> complex with interrupt routines.

That would be impossible in fact because of DMA and SMM activity.

> How much trouble do we want to go to handling a case that only applies
> to very few cards? I believe old QLogic disk controllers have this
> problem, are there others? I'm not aware of any video cards with this
> problem. 99%+ of PCI ROMs don't need the copy.

It would be better to just to blacklist those corner cases


  reply	other threads:[~2004-08-12 12:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 110+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-07-30 21:09 [PATCH] add PCI ROMs to sysfs Jesse Barnes
2004-07-30 21:29 ` Greg KH
2004-07-30 21:34   ` Jesse Barnes
2004-07-30 21:39     ` Greg KH
2004-07-30 21:48     ` Jesse Barnes
2004-07-30 22:15     ` Jon Smirl
2004-07-31 15:59       ` Jesse Barnes
2004-08-02 17:02         ` Jesse Barnes
2004-08-02 17:29           ` Jon Smirl
2004-08-02 21:00           ` Jon Smirl
2004-08-02 21:05             ` Jesse Barnes
2004-08-02 23:32               ` Alan Cox
2004-08-02 23:30           ` Alan Cox
2004-08-03  2:03             ` Jesse Barnes
2004-08-03  2:32               ` Jon Smirl
2004-08-03 17:07                 ` Jesse Barnes
2004-08-03 21:19               ` Jon Smirl
2004-08-03 21:28                 ` Jesse Barnes
2004-08-03 21:30                   ` Jesse Barnes
2004-08-03 21:31                   ` Martin Mares
2004-08-03 21:36                     ` Jon Smirl
2004-08-03 21:39                       ` Martin Mares
2004-08-04  6:00                         ` lspci and ROM on bridge, was: " Jon Smirl
2004-08-04 16:04                           ` Martin Mares
2004-08-05  5:05                         ` Jon Smirl
2004-08-05  5:41                           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-08-05 11:53                             ` Jon Smirl
2004-08-05 15:54                           ` Jesse Barnes
2004-08-05 16:25                             ` Jesse Barnes
2004-08-05 20:45                               ` Jon Smirl
2004-08-05 21:12                                 ` Jesse Barnes
2004-08-06 21:14                                   ` Jon Smirl
2004-08-06 22:33                                     ` Jesse Barnes
2004-08-11 17:04                                     ` Jesse Barnes
2004-08-11 17:28                                       ` Greg KH
2004-08-11 18:02                                         ` Jesse Barnes
2004-08-11 18:12                                           ` Greg KH
2004-08-12  1:28                                             ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-08-12 14:38                                               ` Jesse Barnes
2004-08-12 17:29                                               ` Greg KH
2004-08-12  2:25                                             ` Miles Bader
2004-08-12  4:38                                               ` Greg KH
2004-08-12  9:18                                                 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2004-08-12 22:01                                                 ` Matthew Wilcox
2004-08-11 19:24                                         ` Jon Smirl
2004-08-11 19:44                                           ` Jesse Barnes
2004-08-11 20:11                                           ` Alan Cox
2004-08-11 23:31                                             ` Jon Smirl
2004-08-12 11:51                                               ` Alan Cox [this message]
2004-08-12 20:28                                                 ` Jon Smirl
2004-08-12  0:45                                         ` Jon Smirl
2004-08-12  4:37                                           ` Greg KH
2004-08-04  6:08           ` Jon Smirl
2004-08-04 15:56             ` Jesse Barnes
2004-07-30 21:53   ` Jon Smirl
2004-07-31 10:03     ` Vojtech Pavlik
2004-07-31 13:28       ` Jon Smirl
2004-07-31 15:42         ` Greg KH
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-08-04 15:57 Petr Vandrovec
2004-08-04 17:06 ` Jesse Barnes
2004-08-05  1:38   ` Jon Smirl
2004-08-11 23:27 Pallipadi, Venkatesh
2004-08-12  0:22 ` Jon Smirl
2004-08-12  2:22 ` Jon Smirl
2004-08-13 18:17   ` Martin Mares
2004-08-14  5:34     ` Jon Smirl
2004-08-14  9:47       ` Martin Mares
2004-08-14 14:17         ` Jon Smirl
2004-08-14 22:10           ` Martin Mares
2004-08-14 23:39             ` Jon Smirl
2004-08-18 18:13             ` Jon Smirl
2004-08-18 18:37               ` Jesse Barnes
2004-08-23 22:51                 ` Greg KH
2004-08-25 17:32                   ` Jon Smirl
2004-08-25 17:42                     ` Greg KH
2004-08-25 18:06                       ` Jon Smirl
2004-08-25 18:19                         ` Greg KH
2004-08-25 18:45                           ` Jon Smirl
2004-08-25 18:55                             ` Greg KH
2004-08-25 20:06                               ` Jon Smirl
2004-08-26 13:13                                 ` Matthew Wilcox
2004-08-26 15:40                                   ` Jon Smirl
2004-08-26 15:58                                     ` Matthew Wilcox
2004-08-26 19:54                                       ` Jon Smirl
2004-08-28 16:15                                         ` Matthew Wilcox
2004-08-28 17:33                                           ` Jon Smirl
2004-08-28 17:38                                           ` Jon Smirl
2004-08-27 16:43                                       ` Matthew Wilcox
2004-08-27 22:29                                         ` Jon Smirl
2004-08-28 16:35                                           ` Matthew Wilcox
2004-08-28 21:53                                             ` Grant Grundler
2004-08-25 18:29                         ` Matthew Wilcox
2004-08-19 12:51               ` Alan Cox
2004-08-19 23:00                 ` Jon Smirl
2004-08-19 14:01               ` Martin Mares
2004-08-19 23:11                 ` Jon Smirl
2004-08-20 10:26                   ` Martin Mares
2004-08-25 15:36               ` Matthew Wilcox
2004-08-25 15:50                 ` Jon Smirl
2004-08-12  8:39 Thomas Winischhofer
2004-08-29  4:58 Jon Smirl
2004-09-03  1:40 Jon Smirl
2004-09-03 17:27 ` Jesse Barnes
2004-09-03 17:45   ` Jesse Barnes
2004-09-03 18:06     ` Jesse Barnes
2004-09-08  3:15 Jon Smirl
2004-09-08  6:07 ` Greg KH
2004-09-08 23:50 ` Greg KH
2004-10-08  2:20   ` Jon Smirl
2004-11-05 23:06     ` Greg KH

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