From: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
To: Robert Milkowski <milek@rudy.mif.pg.gda.pl>
Cc: "Tomasz Kłoczko" <kloczek@rudy.mif.pg.gda.pl>,
"Julien Oster" <usenet-20040502@usenet.frodoid.org>,
"Miles Lane" <miles.lane@comcast.net>,
"Linux Kernel Mailing List" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: DTrace-like analysis possible with future Linux kernels?
Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2004 20:16:03 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1093354658.2810.31.camel@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.60L.0408232107270.13955@rudy.mif.pg.gda.pl>
On Llu, 2004-08-23 at 20:48, Robert Milkowski wrote:
> Solaris runs on x86 platform, and runs quite well.
> And guess what - DTrace runs on x86 like a charm.
Larger x86 boxes. I can't seem to find PDA's with Solaris or phones
with Solaris or $70 wireless routers with Solaris.
> I must admit I don't know OProfile.
> But can you profile already running application without interuption
Yes
> What about getting structure contents, function arguments and returns,
> etc... all on the fly.
ptrace. Actually there are folks who want to take ptrace a bit further
for some things - at least one vendor posted some proposals which when
recast into ptrace extensions look good.
> I think you missed the point.
Nope
> Sure, you can make your own module on Linux, load it and trace whatever
> you want. But:
Why do that, why not use the existing functionality that the kernel
provides built on the stuff Intel AMD and friends stuck in the CPU. I'm
not claiming our debugging tools are as good as dtrace but most of it
(especially with kprobes patches installed) is essentially a UI design
issue.
Alan
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-08-28 20:37 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-08-19 22:22 DTrace-like analysis possible with future Linux kernels? Miles Lane
2004-08-19 23:01 ` Karim Yaghmour
2004-08-19 23:23 ` Julien Oster
2004-08-19 22:33 ` Alan Cox
2004-08-20 10:08 ` Alex Bennee
2004-08-20 11:21 ` Robert Schwebel
2004-08-20 0:23 ` Florian Weimer
2004-08-20 13:34 ` Alexander Nyberg
2004-08-20 13:46 ` Florian Weimer
2004-08-20 16:46 ` David S. Miller
2004-08-21 6:03 ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2004-08-21 6:12 ` David S. Miller
2004-08-21 6:22 ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2004-08-21 12:12 ` Julien Oster
2004-08-21 13:27 ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2004-08-21 21:49 ` Bryan Cantrill
2004-08-23 23:08 ` Christoph Halder
2004-08-22 11:35 ` Alan Cox
2004-08-22 18:27 ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2004-08-22 18:46 ` Alan Cox
2004-08-23 17:34 ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2004-08-22 23:03 ` John Levon
2004-08-23 19:48 ` Robert Milkowski
2004-08-24 0:39 ` David S. Miller
2004-08-28 19:16 ` Alan Cox [this message]
2004-08-29 0:14 ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2004-08-29 5:30 ` David S. Miller
2004-08-29 10:45 ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2004-08-29 17:46 ` David S. Miller
2004-08-29 10:53 ` Robert Milkowski
2004-08-29 10:29 ` Robert Milkowski
2004-08-31 20:16 ` Timothy Miller
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2004-08-21 15:01 ` PATCH: cdrecord: avoiding scsi device numbering for ide devices Pascal Schmidt
2004-08-21 15:57 ` Joerg Schilling
2004-08-22 11:56 ` Joerg Schilling
2004-08-22 13:13 ` Pascal Schmidt
2004-08-22 16:00 ` Christer Weinigel
2004-08-22 16:32 ` Joerg Schilling
2004-08-22 17:18 ` Christer Weinigel
2004-08-22 19:22 ` DTrace-like analysis possible with future Linux kernels? Joerg Schilling
2004-08-22 19:26 ` PATCH: cdrecord: avoiding scsi device numbering for ide devices Tonnerre
2004-08-22 20:14 ` DTrace-like analysis possible with future Linux kernels? Joerg Schilling
2004-08-22 20:33 ` Tonnerre
2004-08-22 20:38 ` Alan Cox
2004-08-22 20:43 ` Joerg Schilling
2004-08-22 21:37 ` Christer Weinigel
2004-08-23 11:44 ` Joerg Schilling
2004-08-23 17:40 ` Horst von Brand
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2004-08-23 18:19 ` Andi Kleen
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2004-08-24 4:14 Joerg Schilling
2004-08-28 19:15 ` Alan Cox
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2004-08-24 13:04 ` Pascal Schmidt
2004-08-24 13:07 ` Joerg Schilling
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