From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S267770AbUHZU7C (ORCPT ); Thu, 26 Aug 2004 16:59:02 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S269659AbUHZU5E (ORCPT ); Thu, 26 Aug 2004 16:57:04 -0400 Received: from viper.oldcity.dca.net ([216.158.38.4]:61878 "HELO viper.oldcity.dca.net") by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id S269618AbUHZUiS (ORCPT ); Thu, 26 Aug 2004 16:38:18 -0400 Subject: Re: silent semantic changes with reiser4 From: Lee Revell To: Will Dyson Cc: Jamie Lokier , Chris Wedgwood , viro@parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk, Linus Torvalds , Christoph Hellwig , Hans Reiser , linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel , Alexander Lyamin aka FLX , ReiserFS List In-Reply-To: <412E06B2.7060106@pobox.com> References: <412CEE38.1080707@namesys.com> <20040825200859.GA16345@lst.de> <20040825204240.GI21964@parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk> <20040825212518.GK21964@parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk> <20040826001152.GB23423@mail.shareable.org> <20040826003055.GO21964@parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk> <20040826010049.GA24731@mail.shareable.org> <20040826100530.GA20805@taniwha.stupidest.org> <20040826110258.GC30449@mail.shareable.org> <412E06B2.7060106@pobox.com> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1093552705.5678.96.camel@krustophenia.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.6 Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2004 16:38:26 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Thu, 2004-08-26 at 11:50, Will Dyson wrote: > Jamie Lokier wrote: > > > However, as far as I know it's not accessible in a file-as-directory > > form as yet. In my opinion that is the most natural form and it would > > be very intuitive to use. I hope we can pick a useful semantics for > > them, and also provide filesystem-independent plugins with GNU > > Hurd-like per-user extensibility. > > > > -- Jamie > > > > * plenty == too much. > > Gnome, KDE, Emacs and Bash all see different virtual filesystems. > > (All but Bash implement their own virtual filesystem extensions). > > That makes them much less useful than they could be. > > It has always bugged me that Gnome and KDE implement their own VFS layers. > Same here. This always seemed like something the kernel should be able to handle. It seems to me that if reiser4 had been available at the time the Gnome and KDE developers would not have needed to do this. Lee