From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S269640AbUHZVAi (ORCPT ); Thu, 26 Aug 2004 17:00:38 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S269469AbUHZVA0 (ORCPT ); Thu, 26 Aug 2004 17:00:26 -0400 Received: from viper.oldcity.dca.net ([216.158.38.4]:30648 "HELO viper.oldcity.dca.net") by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id S269662AbUHZU5T (ORCPT ); Thu, 26 Aug 2004 16:57:19 -0400 Subject: Re: silent semantic changes with reiser4 From: Lee Revell To: Christophe Saout Cc: Will Dyson , Jamie Lokier , Chris Wedgwood , viro@parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk, Linus Torvalds , Christoph Hellwig , Hans Reiser , linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel , Alexander Lyamin aka FLX , ReiserFS List In-Reply-To: <1093553429.13881.48.camel@leto.cs.pocnet.net> References: <412CEE38.1080707@namesys.com> <20040825200859.GA16345@lst.de> <20040825204240.GI21964@parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk> <20040825212518.GK21964@parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk> <20040826001152.GB23423@mail.shareable.org> <20040826003055.GO21964@parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk> <20040826010049.GA24731@mail.shareable.org> <20040826100530.GA20805@taniwha.stupidest.org> <20040826110258.GC30449@mail.shareable.org> <412E06B2.7060106@pobox.com> <1093552705.5678.96.camel@krustophenia.net> <1093553429.13881.48.camel@leto.cs.pocnet.net> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1093553846.5678.102.camel@krustophenia.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.6 Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2004 16:57:26 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Thu, 2004-08-26 at 16:50, Christophe Saout wrote: > Am Donnerstag, den 26.08.2004, 16:38 -0400 schrieb Lee Revell: > > > > It has always bugged me that Gnome and KDE implement their own VFS layers. > > > > Same here. This always seemed like something the kernel should be able > > to handle. It seems to me that if reiser4 had been available at the > > time the Gnome and KDE developers would not have needed to do this. > > Well, the kernel doesn't have a filesystem that speaks http, scp and > those things. GnomeVFS is URL-based. It has some pseudo-protocols that > extract a pseudo directory-tree for all installed applications + the > changes the used made, created on the fly from a set of XML files that > are read-only and system-wide and the user-overridden changes. I don't > know if all of these things would really make sense inside the kernel. > True. FWIW, I never use most of those features. It's just too damn slow. Windows seems to implement all of the useful features of GnomeVFS, and they are 10x faster. Lee