From: Lee Revell <rlrevell@joe-job.com>
To: William Lee Irwin III <wli@holomorphy.com>
Cc: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>, Robert Love <rml@ximian.com>,
Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@novell.com>,
Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [patch] sched: fix scheduling latencies for !PREEMPT kernels
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 22:00:44 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1095213644.2406.90.camel@krustophenia.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040915014610.GG9106@holomorphy.com>
On Tue, 2004-09-14 at 21:46, William Lee Irwin III wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 14, 2004 at 08:22:29PM -0400, Lee Revell wrote:
> > Although, there is at least one case (reiser3) where we know which data
> > structures the BKL is supposed to be protecting, because the code does
> > something like reiserfs_write_lock(foo_data_structure) which gets
> > define'd away to lock_kernel(). And apparently some of the best and
> > brightest on LKML have tried and failed to fix it, and even Hans says
> > "it's HARD, the fix is reiser4".
> > So, maybe some of the current uses should be tagged as WONTFIX.
>
> I've not heard a peep about anyone trying to fix this. It should be
> killed off along with the rest, of course, but like I said before, it's
> the messiest, dirtiest, and ugliest code that's left to go through,
> which is why it's been left for last. e.g. driver ->ioctl() methods.
>
Andrew tried to fix this a few times in 2.4 and it broke the FS in
subtle ways. Don't have an archive link but the message is
<20040712163141.31ef1ad6.akpm@osdl.org>. I asked Hans directly about it
and he said "balancing makes it hard, the fix is reiser4", see
<411925FA.2000303@namesys.com>.
Lee
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-09-15 2:00 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-09-14 9:15 [patch] preempt-cleanup.patch, 2.6.9-rc2 Ingo Molnar
2004-09-14 9:34 ` [printk] make console_conditional_schedule() __sched and use cond_resched() William Lee Irwin III
2004-09-14 9:38 ` [patch] preempt-lock-need-resched.patch, 2.6.9-rc2 Ingo Molnar
2004-09-14 9:51 ` [patch] sched: add cond_resched_softirq() Ingo Molnar
2004-09-14 9:57 ` [patch] sched: fix latency in random driver Ingo Molnar
2004-09-14 10:06 ` [patch] sched, ext3: fix scheduling latencies in ext3 Ingo Molnar
2004-09-14 10:13 ` [patch] sched, vfs: fix scheduling latencies in invalidate_inodes() Ingo Molnar
2004-09-14 10:19 ` [patch] sched, vfs: fix scheduling latencies in prune_dcache() and select_parent() Ingo Molnar
2004-09-14 10:25 ` [patch] sched, net: fix scheduling latencies in netstat Ingo Molnar
2004-09-14 10:44 ` [patch] sched, net: fix scheduling latencies in __release_sock Ingo Molnar
2004-09-14 10:50 ` [patch] sched, mm: fix scheduling latencies in copy_page_range() Ingo Molnar
2004-09-14 10:56 ` [patch] sched, mm: fix scheduling latencies in unmap_vmas() Ingo Molnar
2004-09-14 10:59 ` [patch] sched, mm: fix scheduling latencies in get_user_pages() Ingo Molnar
2004-09-14 11:02 ` [patch] sched, mm: fix scheduling latencies in filemap_sync() Ingo Molnar
2004-09-14 11:06 ` [patch] sched, tty: fix scheduling latencies in tty_io.c Ingo Molnar
2004-09-14 10:53 ` Alan Cox
2004-09-14 12:00 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-09-14 11:18 ` Alan Cox
2004-09-14 12:27 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-09-14 12:11 ` Alan Cox
2004-09-14 11:08 ` [patch] sched, pty: fix scheduling latencies in pty.c Ingo Molnar
2004-09-14 11:12 ` [patch] might_sleep() additions to fs-writeback.c Ingo Molnar
2004-09-14 11:25 ` [patch] fix keventd execution dependency Ingo Molnar
2004-09-15 22:18 ` Rusty Russell
2004-09-14 11:28 ` [patch] sched: fix scheduling latencies in mttr.c Ingo Molnar
2004-09-14 11:32 ` [patch] sched: fix scheduling latencies in vgacon.c Ingo Molnar
2004-09-14 11:35 ` [patch] sched: fix scheduling latencies in NTFS mount Ingo Molnar
2004-09-14 13:31 ` Anton Altaparmakov
2004-09-14 11:42 ` [patch] sched: fix scheduling latencies for !PREEMPT kernels Ingo Molnar
2004-09-14 12:55 ` Nick Piggin
2004-09-14 13:22 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-09-14 13:33 ` Nick Piggin
2004-09-14 14:09 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-09-14 14:28 ` Nick Piggin
2004-09-14 15:03 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-09-14 18:05 ` Robert Love
2004-09-14 18:52 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-09-14 19:02 ` Robert Love
2004-09-14 19:21 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-09-14 19:19 ` Alan Cox
2004-09-15 0:22 ` Lee Revell
2004-09-15 1:46 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-09-15 2:00 ` Lee Revell [this message]
2004-09-15 2:36 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-09-15 2:59 ` Lee Revell
2004-09-15 13:36 ` Hans Reiser
2004-09-15 20:40 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-09-15 1:18 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-09-14 19:26 ` Robert Love
2004-09-14 21:06 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-09-14 19:25 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-09-14 19:29 ` Robert Love
2004-09-14 19:34 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-09-15 1:02 ` Lee Revell
2004-09-15 1:39 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-09-15 2:11 ` Lee Revell
2004-09-15 11:17 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-09-15 9:56 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-09-15 9:57 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-09-15 10:12 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-09-14 16:31 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-09-14 16:39 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-09-14 14:54 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-09-14 22:55 ` Nick Piggin
2004-09-15 6:19 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-09-15 8:23 ` Nick Piggin
2004-09-15 8:43 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-09-15 10:09 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-09-15 10:21 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-09-16 1:03 ` Nick Piggin
2004-09-16 6:14 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-09-15 0:35 ` Lee Revell
2004-09-14 13:25 ` [patch] sched: fix scheduling latencies in mtrr.c Ingo Molnar
2004-09-14 13:15 ` Alan Cox
2004-09-14 15:00 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-09-14 18:22 ` Zwane Mwaikambo
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