From: Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@hp.com>
To: Dmitry Torokhov <dtor_core@ameritech.net>
Cc: acpi-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
Keshavamurthy Anil S <anil.s.keshavamurthy@intel.com>,
"Brown, Len" <len.brown@intel.com>,
LHNS list <lhns-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>,
Linux IA64 <linux-ia64@vger.kernel.org>,
Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [ACPI] PATCH-ACPI based CPU hotplug[2/6]-ACPI Eject interface support
Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 19:41:40 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1095730900.8780.76.camel@mythbox> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200409202020.05776.dtor_core@ameritech.net>
On Mon, 2004-09-20 at 20:20 -0500, Dmitry Torokhov wrote:
> On Monday 20 September 2004 07:52 pm, Alex Williamson wrote:
> > On Mon, 2004-09-20 at 18:12 -0500, Dmitry Torokhov wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Anil,
> > >
> > > I obviously failed to deliver my idea :) I meant that I would like add eject
> > > attribute (along with maybe status, hid and some others) to kobjects in
> > > /sys/firmware/acpi tree.
> > >
> >
> > Dmitry,
> >
> > See the patch I just posted to acpi-devel and lkml (Subject:
> > [PATCH/RFC] exposing ACPI objects in sysfs). It exposes acpi objects as
> > you describe. Something simple like:
> >
> > # cat /sys/firmware/acpi/namespace/ACPI/_SB/LSB0/_EJ0
> >
> > Will call the _EJ0 method on the ACPI device. You can evaluate eject
> > dependencies using the _EJD method.
> >
> > Alex
> >
>
> Alex,
>
> While I think that your patch is very important and should be included (maybe
> if not as is if somebody has some objections but in some other form) I see it
> more like developer's tool. I imagined status, HID, eject etc. attributes to
> be sanitized interface to kernel's data, not necessarily causing re-evaluation.
>
Dmitry,
I imagined the sanitized interfaces would be provided via a userspace
library, similar to how lspci provides a clean interface to all of the
PCI data. An "lsacpi" tool could extract the information into something
more like you suggest. If you have objects exposed as human
readable/writable files, I think you'll quickly end up with a _STA
driver, _HID driver, _CID driver, _ADR driver, _UID driver, _EJx driver,
etc, etc, etc... I don't think we want that kind of bloat in the kernel
(that's what userspace is for ;^). Providing a solid, direct interface
to ACPI methods in the kernel seems like the most flexible, powerful
interface IMHO. Thanks,
Alex
> So it could be like this:
>
> /sys/firmware/acpi/namespace/ACPI/_SB/LSB0/status
> /sys/firmware/acpi/namespace/ACPI/_SB/LSB0/removable
> /sys/firmware/acpi/namespace/ACPI/_SB/LSB0/lockable
> ..
> /sys/firmware/acpi/namespace/ACPI/_SB/LSB0/eject
>
> And your raw access to the ACPI methods could reside under raw:
>
> /sys/firmware/acpi/namespace/ACPI/_SB/LSB0/raw/_STA
> /sys/firmware/acpi/namespace/ACPI/_SB/LSB0/raw/_RNV
> /sys/firmware/acpi/namespace/ACPI/_SB/LSB0/raw/_LCK
> ..
> /sys/firmware/acpi/namespace/ACPI/_SB/LSB0/raw/_EJ0
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-09-21 1:42 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-09-20 16:25 PATCH-ACPI based CPU hotplug[0/6] Keshavamurthy Anil S
2004-09-20 16:29 ` PATCH-ACPI based CPU hotplug[0/6]-Core ACPI enhancement support Keshavamurthy Anil S
2004-09-20 16:34 ` PATCH-ACPI based CPU hotplug[1/6]-ACPI core " Keshavamurthy Anil S
[not found] ` <200409201326.44946.dtor_core@ameritech.net>
2004-09-20 19:01 ` [ACPI] " Keshavamurthy Anil S
2004-09-20 20:26 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2004-09-20 20:44 ` Keshavamurthy Anil S
2004-09-24 23:22 ` Keshavamurthy Anil S
2004-09-20 16:35 ` PATCH-ACPI based CPU hotplug[2/6]-ACPI Eject interface support Keshavamurthy Anil S
2004-09-20 18:33 ` [ACPI] " Dmitry Torokhov
2004-09-20 19:24 ` Keshavamurthy Anil S
2004-09-20 23:12 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2004-09-21 0:52 ` Alex Williamson
2004-09-21 1:20 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2004-09-21 1:25 ` Keshavamurthy Anil S
2004-09-21 1:41 ` Alex Williamson [this message]
2004-09-21 5:34 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2004-09-21 1:38 ` Keshavamurthy Anil S
2004-09-21 5:51 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2004-09-21 21:51 ` Keshavamurthy Anil S
2004-09-21 22:23 ` [Lhns-devel] " Russ Anderson
2004-09-22 3:10 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2004-09-24 23:28 ` Keshavamurthy Anil S
2004-09-27 6:12 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2004-09-27 16:53 ` Keshavamurthy Anil S
2004-09-27 18:09 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2004-09-22 4:17 ` Keiichiro Tokunaga
2004-09-22 16:59 ` Keshavamurthy Anil S
2004-09-20 16:38 ` PATCH-ACPI based CPU hotplug[3/6]-Mapping lsapic to cpu Keshavamurthy Anil S
2004-09-22 2:10 ` [ACPI] " Keiichiro Tokunaga
2004-09-23 6:55 ` Keshavamurthy Anil S
2004-09-22 13:15 ` Keiichiro Tokunaga
2004-09-22 13:23 ` Keiichiro Tokunaga
2004-09-22 14:52 ` Alex Williamson
2004-09-22 17:10 ` Keiichiro Tokunaga
2004-09-22 17:54 ` Keshavamurthy Anil S
2004-09-24 23:36 ` Keshavamurthy Anil S
2004-09-27 11:47 ` Keiichiro Tokunaga
2004-09-27 12:50 ` Keiichiro Tokunaga
2004-09-27 20:44 ` Keshavamurthy Anil S
2004-09-20 16:41 ` PATCH-ACPI based CPU hotplug[4/6]-Dynamic cpu register/unregister support Keshavamurthy Anil S
2004-09-22 8:34 ` [ACPI] " Keiichiro Tokunaga
2004-09-22 17:10 ` Keshavamurthy Anil S
2004-09-24 23:40 ` Keshavamurthy Anil S
2004-09-20 16:43 ` PATCH-ACPI based CPU hotplug[5/6]-ACPI processor driver extension Keshavamurthy Anil S
2004-09-22 9:57 ` [ACPI] " Keiichiro Tokunaga
2004-09-24 23:48 ` Keshavamurthy Anil S
2004-09-20 16:47 ` PATCH-ACPI based CPU hotplug[6/6]-ACPI Container driver Keshavamurthy Anil S
2004-09-23 16:23 ` [PATCH][0/4] NUMA node handling support for ACPI container driver Keiichiro Tokunaga
2004-09-23 16:31 ` [PATCH][1/4] Add unregister_node() to drivers/base/node.c Keiichiro Tokunaga
2004-09-23 16:43 ` [Lhns-devel] " Dave Hansen
2004-09-24 3:12 ` Keiichiro Tokunaga
2004-09-27 18:52 ` Keshavamurthy Anil S
2004-09-28 10:19 ` Keiichiro Tokunaga
2004-09-23 16:32 ` [PATCH][2/4] Add arch_register_node() for ia64 Keiichiro Tokunaga
2004-09-23 16:32 ` [PATCH][3/4] Add hotplug support to drivers/acpi/numa.c Keiichiro Tokunaga
2004-09-27 12:58 ` Keiichiro Tokunaga
2004-09-27 20:06 ` Keshavamurthy Anil S
2004-09-29 6:26 ` Keiichiro Tokunaga
2004-09-23 16:36 ` [PATCH][4/4] Add NUMA node handling to the container driver Keiichiro Tokunaga
2004-09-23 22:09 ` Mika Penttilä
2004-09-24 4:44 ` Keiichiro Tokunaga
2004-09-23 16:38 ` [PATCH][0/4] NUMA node handling support for ACPI " Keshavamurthy Anil S
2004-09-24 23:51 ` PATCH-ACPI based CPU hotplug[6/6]-ACPI Container driver Keshavamurthy Anil S
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