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From: Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@hp.com>
To: Dmitry Torokhov <dtor_core@ameritech.net>
Cc: acpi-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
	Keshavamurthy Anil S <anil.s.keshavamurthy@intel.com>,
	"Brown, Len" <len.brown@intel.com>,
	LHNS list <lhns-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>,
	Linux IA64 <linux-ia64@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [ACPI] PATCH-ACPI based CPU hotplug[2/6]-ACPI Eject interface support
Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 19:41:40 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1095730900.8780.76.camel@mythbox> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200409202020.05776.dtor_core@ameritech.net>

On Mon, 2004-09-20 at 20:20 -0500, Dmitry Torokhov wrote:
> On Monday 20 September 2004 07:52 pm, Alex Williamson wrote:
> > On Mon, 2004-09-20 at 18:12 -0500, Dmitry Torokhov wrote: 
> > > 
> > > Hi Anil,
> > > 
> > > I obviously failed to deliver my idea :) I meant that I would like add eject
> > > attribute (along with maybe status, hid and some others) to kobjects in
> > > /sys/firmware/acpi tree.
> > > 
> > 
> > Dmitry,
> > 
> >    See the patch I just posted to acpi-devel and lkml (Subject:
> > [PATCH/RFC] exposing ACPI objects in sysfs).  It exposes acpi objects as
> > you describe.   Something simple like:
> > 
> >  # cat /sys/firmware/acpi/namespace/ACPI/_SB/LSB0/_EJ0
> > 
> > Will call the _EJ0 method on the ACPI device.  You can evaluate eject
> > dependencies using the _EJD method.
> > 
> > 	Alex
> > 
> 
> Alex,
> 
> While I think that your patch is very important and should be included (maybe
> if not as is if somebody has some objections but in some other form) I see it
> more like developer's tool. I imagined status, HID, eject etc. attributes to
> be sanitized interface to kernel's data, not necessarily causing re-evaluation.
> 

Dmitry,

   I imagined the sanitized interfaces would be provided via a userspace
library, similar to how lspci provides a clean interface to all of the
PCI data.  An "lsacpi" tool could extract the information into something
more like you suggest.  If you have objects exposed as human
readable/writable files, I think you'll quickly end up with a _STA
driver, _HID driver, _CID driver, _ADR driver, _UID driver, _EJx driver,
etc, etc, etc...  I don't think we want that kind of bloat in the kernel
(that's what userspace is for ;^).  Providing a solid, direct interface
to ACPI methods in the kernel seems like the most flexible, powerful
interface IMHO.  Thanks,

	Alex

> So it could be like this:
> 
> /sys/firmware/acpi/namespace/ACPI/_SB/LSB0/status
> /sys/firmware/acpi/namespace/ACPI/_SB/LSB0/removable
> /sys/firmware/acpi/namespace/ACPI/_SB/LSB0/lockable
> ..
> /sys/firmware/acpi/namespace/ACPI/_SB/LSB0/eject
> 
> And your raw access to the ACPI methods could reside under raw:
> 
> /sys/firmware/acpi/namespace/ACPI/_SB/LSB0/raw/_STA
> /sys/firmware/acpi/namespace/ACPI/_SB/LSB0/raw/_RNV
> /sys/firmware/acpi/namespace/ACPI/_SB/LSB0/raw/_LCK
> ..
> /sys/firmware/acpi/namespace/ACPI/_SB/LSB0/raw/_EJ0



  parent reply	other threads:[~2004-09-21  1:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-09-20 16:25 PATCH-ACPI based CPU hotplug[0/6] Keshavamurthy Anil S
2004-09-20 16:29 ` PATCH-ACPI based CPU hotplug[0/6]-Core ACPI enhancement support Keshavamurthy Anil S
2004-09-20 16:34 ` PATCH-ACPI based CPU hotplug[1/6]-ACPI core " Keshavamurthy Anil S
     [not found]   ` <200409201326.44946.dtor_core@ameritech.net>
2004-09-20 19:01     ` [ACPI] " Keshavamurthy Anil S
2004-09-20 20:26       ` Bjorn Helgaas
2004-09-20 20:44         ` Keshavamurthy Anil S
2004-09-24 23:22           ` Keshavamurthy Anil S
2004-09-20 16:35 ` PATCH-ACPI based CPU hotplug[2/6]-ACPI Eject interface support Keshavamurthy Anil S
2004-09-20 18:33   ` [ACPI] " Dmitry Torokhov
2004-09-20 19:24     ` Keshavamurthy Anil S
2004-09-20 23:12       ` Dmitry Torokhov
2004-09-21  0:52         ` Alex Williamson
2004-09-21  1:20           ` Dmitry Torokhov
2004-09-21  1:25             ` Keshavamurthy Anil S
2004-09-21  1:41             ` Alex Williamson [this message]
2004-09-21  5:34               ` Dmitry Torokhov
2004-09-21  1:38         ` Keshavamurthy Anil S
2004-09-21  5:51           ` Dmitry Torokhov
2004-09-21 21:51             ` Keshavamurthy Anil S
2004-09-21 22:23               ` [Lhns-devel] " Russ Anderson
2004-09-22  3:10               ` Dmitry Torokhov
2004-09-24 23:28         ` Keshavamurthy Anil S
2004-09-27  6:12           ` Dmitry Torokhov
2004-09-27 16:53             ` Keshavamurthy Anil S
2004-09-27 18:09               ` Dmitry Torokhov
2004-09-22  4:17   ` Keiichiro Tokunaga
2004-09-22 16:59     ` Keshavamurthy Anil S
2004-09-20 16:38 ` PATCH-ACPI based CPU hotplug[3/6]-Mapping lsapic to cpu Keshavamurthy Anil S
2004-09-22  2:10   ` [ACPI] " Keiichiro Tokunaga
2004-09-23  6:55     ` Keshavamurthy Anil S
2004-09-22 13:15   ` Keiichiro Tokunaga
2004-09-22 13:23     ` Keiichiro Tokunaga
2004-09-22 14:52     ` Alex Williamson
2004-09-22 17:10       ` Keiichiro Tokunaga
2004-09-22 17:54         ` Keshavamurthy Anil S
2004-09-24 23:36         ` Keshavamurthy Anil S
2004-09-27 11:47           ` Keiichiro Tokunaga
2004-09-27 12:50           ` Keiichiro Tokunaga
2004-09-27 20:44             ` Keshavamurthy Anil S
2004-09-20 16:41 ` PATCH-ACPI based CPU hotplug[4/6]-Dynamic cpu register/unregister support Keshavamurthy Anil S
2004-09-22  8:34   ` [ACPI] " Keiichiro Tokunaga
2004-09-22 17:10     ` Keshavamurthy Anil S
2004-09-24 23:40     ` Keshavamurthy Anil S
2004-09-20 16:43 ` PATCH-ACPI based CPU hotplug[5/6]-ACPI processor driver extension Keshavamurthy Anil S
2004-09-22  9:57   ` [ACPI] " Keiichiro Tokunaga
2004-09-24 23:48   ` Keshavamurthy Anil S
2004-09-20 16:47 ` PATCH-ACPI based CPU hotplug[6/6]-ACPI Container driver Keshavamurthy Anil S
2004-09-23 16:23   ` [PATCH][0/4] NUMA node handling support for ACPI container driver Keiichiro Tokunaga
2004-09-23 16:31     ` [PATCH][1/4] Add unregister_node() to drivers/base/node.c Keiichiro Tokunaga
2004-09-23 16:43       ` [Lhns-devel] " Dave Hansen
2004-09-24  3:12         ` Keiichiro Tokunaga
2004-09-27 18:52       ` Keshavamurthy Anil S
2004-09-28 10:19         ` Keiichiro Tokunaga
2004-09-23 16:32     ` [PATCH][2/4] Add arch_register_node() for ia64 Keiichiro Tokunaga
2004-09-23 16:32     ` [PATCH][3/4] Add hotplug support to drivers/acpi/numa.c Keiichiro Tokunaga
2004-09-27 12:58       ` Keiichiro Tokunaga
2004-09-27 20:06       ` Keshavamurthy Anil S
2004-09-29  6:26         ` Keiichiro Tokunaga
2004-09-23 16:36     ` [PATCH][4/4] Add NUMA node handling to the container driver Keiichiro Tokunaga
2004-09-23 22:09       ` Mika Penttilä
2004-09-24  4:44         ` Keiichiro Tokunaga
2004-09-23 16:38     ` [PATCH][0/4] NUMA node handling support for ACPI " Keshavamurthy Anil S
2004-09-24 23:51   ` PATCH-ACPI based CPU hotplug[6/6]-ACPI Container driver Keshavamurthy Anil S

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