From: John McCutchan <ttb@tentacle.dhs.org>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Cc: ray-lk@madrabbit.org, rml@novell.com,
cfriesen@nortelnetworks.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
gamin-list@gnome.org, viro@parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk,
iggy@gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH] inotify 0.10.0
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 21:32:49 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1096507968.17643.5.camel@vertex> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040929211533.5e62988a.akpm@osdl.org>
On Thu, 2004-09-30 at 00:15, Andrew Morton wrote:
> John McCutchan <ttb@tentacle.dhs.org> wrote:
> >
> > > ~ ~
> > >
> > > As Chris points out, we still need a way to pass the name or path back
> > > to userspace when an event occurs, which is the interface I was harping
> > > on a few messages back.
> > >
> > > It seems we're trying to recreate a variant struct dirent for
> > > communicating changes to userspace. Perhaps we can learn something from
> > > already trodden ground? Just sayin'.
> >
> > Yes the current method of passing the name back to user space is
> > definitely sub par. But I don't think passing a full path to user space
> > is reasonable, as that would require walking the dirent tree for every
> > event. Really the best we can provide user space is the filename/dirname
> > (relative to the directory you are currently watching).
>
> Userspace requests that the kernel start monitoring an fd. The kernel
> returns an integer cookie which corresponds to that monitor.
>
> When an event occurs, the kernel returns the event identifier and the
> cookie to userspace.
>
> Userspace then does a lookup to work out what pathname corresponds to the
> cookie.
That is what inotify does. Except user space asks the kernel to monitor
a particular path (not an fd).
>
>
> Or is it the case that you expect a single monitor on /etc will return
> "/etc/passwd" if someone modified that file, or "/etc/hosts" if someone
> modified that file? If so, perhaps we should take that feature away and
> require that userspace rescan the directory?
>
Yes, this is the case that we are discussing. Rescanning the directory
is a waste, if the kernel can cheaply tell userspace what happened.
>
> Because passing pathnames into and back from the kernel from this manner is
> really not a nice design.
>
> A halfway point might be to return {cookie-of-/etc,EVENT_MODIFY,"hosts"} to
> a monitor on the /etc directory.
>
>
This is what the current inotify code does. You get an event with the
filename relative to your watch descriptor (cookie).
John
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-09-30 1:32 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-09-27 2:02 [RFC][PATCH] inotify 0.10.0 John McCutchan
2004-09-27 4:17 ` Andrew Morton
2004-09-27 20:52 ` Robert Love
2004-09-28 4:41 ` Andrew Morton
2004-09-28 2:14 ` Robert Love
2004-09-28 3:44 ` John McCutchan
2004-09-28 17:31 ` Robert Love
2004-09-28 5:45 ` Ray Lee
2004-09-28 19:08 ` Andrew Morton
2004-09-28 16:41 ` Chris Friesen
2004-09-28 16:53 ` Robert Love
2004-09-28 17:32 ` Ray Lee
2004-09-28 20:34 ` John McCutchan
2004-09-28 21:20 ` Ray Lee
2004-09-30 4:15 ` Andrew Morton
2004-09-30 1:32 ` John McCutchan [this message]
2004-09-30 1:34 ` Robert Love
2004-09-30 3:05 ` Paul Jackson
2004-09-30 5:37 ` Chris Friesen
2004-09-30 12:43 ` Paul Jackson
2004-09-30 15:29 ` Ray Lee
2004-09-30 16:27 ` Paul Jackson
2004-09-30 16:53 ` Ray Lee
2004-09-30 17:48 ` Paul Jackson
2004-10-01 1:22 ` Ray Lee
2004-10-01 4:09 ` Paul Jackson
2004-10-04 20:58 ` Ray Lee
2004-09-28 20:40 ` John McCutchan
2004-09-28 20:47 ` Robert Love
2004-09-28 21:39 ` Ray Lee
2004-09-28 22:10 ` Robert Love
2004-09-28 21:32 ` Ray Lee
2004-09-30 4:31 ` Andrew Morton
2004-09-28 20:26 ` John McCutchan
2004-09-28 21:10 ` Ray Lee
2004-09-28 21:20 ` Robert Love
2004-09-28 21:21 ` John McCutchan
2004-09-28 21:35 ` Robert Love
2004-09-28 21:50 ` Ray Lee
2004-09-28 22:03 ` Robert Love
2004-09-27 16:21 ` [gamin] [RFC][PATCH] inotify 0.10.0 [u] Martin Schlemmer [c]
2004-09-27 16:24 ` Robert Love
2004-09-27 16:30 ` Martin Schlemmer [c]
2004-09-27 16:35 ` Robert Love
2004-09-27 17:10 ` Martin Schlemmer [c]
2004-09-27 16:25 ` Martin Schlemmer [c]
2004-09-27 17:12 ` [RFC][PATCH] inotify 0.10.0 Robert Love
2004-09-27 19:48 ` Paul Jackson
2004-09-27 20:22 ` patch] inotify: use bitmap.h functions Robert Love
2004-09-27 20:38 ` Paul Jackson
2004-09-27 19:51 ` [patch] inotify: make it configurable Robert Love
2004-09-27 19:53 ` [patch] inotify: doh Robert Love
2004-09-27 20:06 ` [RFC][PATCH] inotify 0.10.0 Robert Love
2004-09-27 20:39 ` [patch] inotify: don't check private_data Robert Love
2004-09-28 1:05 ` [patch] inotify: silly fix Robert Love
2004-09-28 17:38 ` [RFC][PATCH] inotify 0.10.0 Mike Waychison
2004-09-28 20:35 ` John McCutchan
2004-09-28 17:48 ` [patch] inotify: remove timer Robert Love
2004-09-28 21:46 ` [patch] inotify: use the idr layer Robert Love
2004-09-28 21:58 ` John McCutchan
2004-09-28 22:08 ` Robert Love
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