From: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
To: "Jeff V. Merkey" <jmerkey@drdos.com>
Cc: jonathan@jonmasters.org,
"jmerkey@comcast.net" <jmerkey@comcast.net>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Possible GPL Violation of Linux in Amstrad's E3 Videophone
Date: Sat, 02 Oct 2004 18:34:01 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1096738439.25290.13.camel@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <415DD1ED.6030101@drdos.com>
On Gwe, 2004-10-01 at 22:53, Jeff V. Merkey wrote:
> will say whatever they have to. I've been there, in the real world, all
> GPL means is you are giving away your IP to whomever is running
> whatever effort and you have little recourse. The GPL is tough to
> enforce the way its worded for individuals. There's too much
The German counts didn't think so.
> wiggle room for people to use. Alan Cox in a previous email basically
> stated, " they are being nice and answering emails." Doesn't look
> like it takes much for these people to smooch and kiss up to folks. They
> will always come back to the table like foxes from the
> henhouse, with chicken feathers all over their lips saying "show me the
> chickens."
If you look at the motivation you'd then have to ask yourself why they
would want to do that given that a) They from the start said publically
"its using Linux" and b) Are dropping custom (well probably bought in
mostly) apps onto a generic reference platform.
Not only they seem to be behaving but I can see no obvious game
advantages for them to cheat.
One thing that certainly would be interesting as a thought experiment
for the legal bods (the real ones) would be what occurs if the license
on a couple of essential bits of the kernel was to say
GPL v 2 blah bla
or you may choose to distribute the software without source
code for $100,000 per product you ship it in.
This would then also give both a Judge and the thief a clear crystalised
value for damages....
Alan
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-10-02 18:36 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-10-01 17:40 Possible GPL Violation of Linux in Amstrad's E3 Videophone jmerkey
2004-10-01 18:23 ` Jesse Pollard
2004-10-01 19:34 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-10-01 19:46 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2004-10-01 20:38 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2004-10-01 20:40 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-10-01 22:09 ` Jon Masters
2004-10-01 21:53 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2004-10-01 23:51 ` Michael Poole
2004-10-02 2:00 ` Theodore Ts'o
[not found] ` <20041002064620.GA8568@galt.devicelogics.com>
2004-10-02 10:27 ` Jon Masters
2004-10-02 17:34 ` Alan Cox [this message]
2004-10-03 11:46 ` Willy Tarreau
2004-10-03 11:59 ` Jon Masters
2004-10-03 22:01 ` Alan Cox
2004-10-04 0:23 ` Kyle Moffett
2004-10-07 19:21 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2004-10-07 20:24 ` Chris Friesen
2004-10-07 21:22 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2004-10-07 22:32 ` Chris Friesen
2004-10-07 22:57 ` Hua Zhong
2004-10-08 8:19 ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2004-10-07 21:07 ` Rik van Riel
2004-10-07 21:16 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2004-10-07 21:40 ` Kyle Moffett
2004-10-07 21:17 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2004-10-07 22:02 ` Kyle Moffett
2004-10-07 21:29 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2004-10-08 12:27 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-08 18:24 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2004-10-08 18:42 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-09 9:50 ` James Courtier-Dutton
2004-10-08 12:16 ` Alan Cox
2004-10-07 22:18 ` Dave Jones
2004-10-07 21:51 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2004-10-07 22:41 ` Dave Jones
2004-10-08 0:47 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-10-07 23:50 ` viro
2004-10-08 0:40 ` Jesper Juhl
2004-10-08 0:59 ` Jon Masters
[not found] ` <20041008032034.GD3528@galt.devicelogics.com>
2004-10-08 7:15 ` Jon Masters
2004-10-08 12:38 ` Gene Heskett
2004-10-08 12:50 ` Gene Heskett
2004-10-08 13:48 ` Bruce Ferrell
2004-10-08 15:14 ` Gene Heskett
2004-10-08 2:48 ` Erik Andersen
2004-10-10 6:35 ` Brian Litzinger
2004-10-10 13:25 ` Alan Cox
2004-10-10 22:26 ` Jon Masters
2004-10-11 11:57 ` Tonnerre
2004-10-08 2:40 ` Erik Andersen
2004-10-08 8:50 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2004-10-08 11:08 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-10-04 20:26 ` Jesse Pollard
2004-10-02 12:35 ` James Courtier-Dutton
2004-10-04 18:03 ` Bill Davidsen
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-09-29 13:44 Ralph Corderoy
2004-10-01 14:52 ` Denis Vlasenko
2004-10-01 14:20 ` Alan Cox
2004-10-01 15:59 ` Ralph Corderoy
2004-10-01 16:00 ` Alan Cox
2004-10-01 16:24 ` Jon Masters
2004-10-01 15:59 ` Alan Cox
2004-10-01 17:18 ` Jon Masters
2005-01-07 21:48 ` Jonathan McDowell
2005-01-15 13:43 ` Jonathan McDowell
2005-01-26 16:47 ` Jonathan McDowell
2004-10-01 17:24 ` Tigran Aivazian
2004-10-01 16:14 ` James Courtier-Dutton
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