Converting kernel modules from 2.4 to 2.6/Suggested new driver

Converting kernel modules from 2.4 to 2.6/Suggested new driver

[Kenny Bentley]

Hello.

Does anyone know if there is a detailed guide on how to convert kernel 
modules for 2.4 kernels to modules for 2.6 kernels?  I know very little 
about kernel module programming and haven't done any programming for a 
long time, although I do have a programming background, and I have 
drivers for HSF modems and Riptide sound cards that I want to convert 
from 2.4 modules to 2.6 modules, which shouldn't be too hard.  But I'll 
need a detailed guide to do it.

Or since I've never done any kernel programming, I have a better idea.  
I want to recommend the drivers for inclusion into the official kernel 
tree.  The drivers were released open-source by Linuxant or the 
manufacturer, I don't remember which one for sure.  But they're not 
being developed any further, and the Riptide sound card driver only 
supports OSS, and doesn't support ALSA.  Also, there are things in the 
drivers that need fixing that surely a lot of you can do much better 
than me.  I can help test the revised modules and I know how to put them 
in the kernel tree, so I can do those parts.  But many of you can do the 
programming better than I can.

I can't afford new hardware right now, and I had to search the net for 
hours and maybe even days just to find these drivers, and almost gave up 
hope of being able to use GNU/Linux as my primary OS.  I wouldn't want 
others to have to go through that or settle for mediocre drivers.  If 
there are any takers out there, just send me an E-mail and I'll send you 
the drivers so you can hack away.  But at the very least I'd like to 
know where I can find a detailed guild on how to convert kernel modules 
from 2.4 to 2.6.

Thanks.

Re: Converting kernel modules from 2.4 to 2.6/Suggested new driver

[Randy.Dunlap]

On Tue, 05 Oct 2004 21:09:20 -0400 Kenny Bentley wrote:

| Hello.
| 
| Does anyone know if there is a detailed guide on how to convert kernel 
| modules for 2.4 kernels to modules for 2.6 kernels?  I know very little 
| about kernel module programming and haven't done any programming for a 
| long time, although I do have a programming background, and I have 
| drivers for HSF modems and Riptide sound cards that I want to convert 
| from 2.4 modules to 2.6 modules, which shouldn't be too hard.  But I'll 
| need a detailed guide to do it.

http://lwn.net/Articles/driver-porting/

| Or since I've never done any kernel programming, I have a better idea.  
| I want to recommend the drivers for inclusion into the official kernel 
| tree.  The drivers were released open-source by Linuxant or the 
| manufacturer, I don't remember which one for sure.  But they're not 
| being developed any further, and the Riptide sound card driver only 
| supports OSS, and doesn't support ALSA.  Also, there are things in the 

OSS is deprecated.  It needs an ALSA driver.

| drivers that need fixing that surely a lot of you can do much better 
| than me.  I can help test the revised modules and I know how to put them 
| in the kernel tree, so I can do those parts.  But many of you can do the 
| programming better than I can.

You can recommend them for inclusion, but the developer or maintainer
of them needs to either submit them or at least approve their
submission for inclusion.

| I can't afford new hardware right now, and I had to search the net for 
| hours and maybe even days just to find these drivers, and almost gave up 
| hope of being able to use GNU/Linux as my primary OS.  I wouldn't want 
| others to have to go through that or settle for mediocre drivers.  If 
| there are any takers out there, just send me an E-mail and I'll send you 
| the drivers so you can hack away.  But at the very least I'd like to 
| know where I can find a detailed guild on how to convert kernel modules 
| from 2.4 to 2.6.

How about posting their web locations (wherever you found them)
in case someone is interested..?

--
~Randy

Re: Converting kernel modules from 2.4 to 2.6/Suggested new driver

[J. Bruce Fields]

On Tue, Oct 05, 2004 at 06:27:16PM -0700, Randy.Dunlap wrote:
> You can recommend them for inclusion, but the developer or maintainer
> of them needs to either submit them or at least approve their
> submission for inclusion.

Also, the first thing to check is probably this:

> On Tue, 05 Oct 2004 21:09:20 -0400 Kenny Bentley wrote:
> | Or since I've never done any kernel programming, I have a better idea.  
> | I want to recommend the drivers for inclusion into the official kernel 
> | tree.  The drivers were released open-source by Linuxant or the 
> | manufacturer, I don't remember which one for sure.

You'll need to double-check that.  I think Linuxant released some
free-as-in-beer drivers that were a mixture of free and proprietary
code, so it was easy to get confused on this point.

--Bruce Fields

Re: Converting kernel modules from 2.4 to 2.6/Suggested new driver

[Lee Revell]

On Tue, 2004-10-05 at 21:27, Randy.Dunlap wrote:
> | Or since I've never done any kernel programming, I have a better idea.  
> | I want to recommend the drivers for inclusion into the official kernel 
> | tree.  The drivers were released open-source by Linuxant or the 
> | manufacturer, I don't remember which one for sure.  But they're not 
> | being developed any further, and the Riptide sound card driver only 
> | supports OSS, and doesn't support ALSA.  Also, there are things in the 
> 
> OSS is deprecated.  It needs an ALSA driver.

http://www.alsa-project.org/~iwai/writing-an-alsa-driver/

Lee

Re: Converting kernel modules from 2.4 to 2.6/Suggested new driver

[Kenny Bentley]

Randy.Dunlap wrote:

>| Does anyone know if there is a detailed guide on how to convert kernel 
>| modules for 2.4 kernels to modules for 2.6 kernels?  I know very little 
>
>http://lwn.net/Articles/driver-porting/
>  
>
I haven't had a chance to look at it in detail yet, but I think that 
should definitely cover it.  Thanks a lot.

>OSS is deprecated.  It needs an ALSA driver.
>  
>
That's one reason they made it open-source.  They're hoping someone can 
write an ALSA driver for it.

>You can recommend them for inclusion, but the developer or maintainer
>of them needs to either submit them or at least approve their
>submission for inclusion.
>  
>
I'm not suggesting adding the drivers as they are now in the kernel.  
I'm recommending taking those drivers, revising them to fix whatever 
problems they had (including writing an ALSA driver for the sound card 
driver), and releasing the revised modules.  Or would even that still 
need the original developer's approval?

>How about posting their web locations (wherever you found them)
>in case someone is interested..?
>  
>
I think it was Linuxant (http://www.linuxant.com).  The links in a HOWTO 
file on Conexant modems redirect to that.  I got them somewhere for 
free, whereas Linuxant charges for a full version, but either I can't 
remember where I got them from or the links I got them at redirect to 
Linuxant.  And the documentation in the file doesn't list a Web site, 
but it does mention a copyright by Conexant, but I'm unsure whether 
that's for the driver itself or for the device.  Same deal with the 
Riptide sound card driver.  That was from Linuxant, but they're not 
posting that on their Web site any more, so I'm glad I got it when I 
did.  The file name for the HSF modem driver is 
"hsflinmodem-4.06.06.02.tar.bz2" and the one for the Riptide sound card 
is "riptide-0.6lnxtbeta03122800.tar.bz2".  You might try doing a Web 
search for those files.  Actually, I don't remember whether they were 
originally compressed in .bz2 format or if they were compressed in .gz 
format and I recompressed them in .bz2 format (as I did for a lot of 
stuff), so make sure you try both extensions.

Re: Converting kernel modules from 2.4 to 2.6/Suggested new driver

[Kenny Bentley]

J. Bruce Fields wrote:

>You'll need to double-check that.  I think Linuxant released some
>free-as-in-beer drivers that were a mixture of free and proprietary
>code, so it was easy to get confused on this point.
>  
>
I'm not sure what you mean by "free-as-in-beer", but they were released 
open-source in hopes that others would be able to develop them further.  
At the very least, I know for sure that the sound card driver is 
open-source in hopes that people will be able to write an ALSA driver 
for it since it only supports OSS.  I'll have to check the licenses in 
the files I have for details about distribution.

Re: Converting kernel modules from 2.4 to 2.6/Suggested new driver

[John Carlson]

--- Kenny Bentley <crash77a@allvantage.com> wrote:

> Randy.Dunlap wrote:
> 
> >| Does anyone know if there is a detailed guide on
> how to convert kernel 
> >| modules for 2.4 kernels to modules for 2.6
> kernels?  I know very little 
> >
> >http://lwn.net/Articles/driver-porting/
> >  
> >
> I haven't had a chance to look at it in detail yet,
> but I think that 
> should definitely cover it.  Thanks a lot.
> 
> >OSS is deprecated.  It needs an ALSA driver.
> >  
> >
> That's one reason they made it open-source.  They're
> hoping someone can 
> write an ALSA driver for it.
> 
> >You can recommend them for inclusion, but the
> developer or maintainer
> >of them needs to either submit them or at least
> approve their
> >submission for inclusion.
> >  
> >
> I'm not suggesting adding the drivers as they are
> now in the kernel.  
> I'm recommending taking those drivers, revising them
> to fix whatever 
> problems they had (including writing an ALSA driver
> for the sound card 
> driver), and releasing the revised modules.  Or
> would even that still 
> need the original developer's approval?
> 
> >How about posting their web locations (wherever you
> found them)
> >in case someone is interested..?
> >  
> >
> I think it was Linuxant (http://www.linuxant.com). 
> The links in a HOWTO 
> file on Conexant modems redirect to that.  I got
> them somewhere for 
> free, whereas Linuxant charges for a full version,
> but either I can't 
> remember where I got them from or the links I got
> them at redirect to 
> Linuxant.  And the documentation in the file doesn't
> list a Web site, 
> but it does mention a copyright by Conexant, but I'm
> unsure whether 
> that's for the driver itself or for the device. 
> Same deal with the 
> Riptide sound card driver.  That was from Linuxant,
> but they're not 
> posting that on their Web site any more, so I'm glad
> I got it when I 
> did.  The file name for the HSF modem driver is 
> "hsflinmodem-4.06.06.02.tar.bz2" and the one for the
> Riptide sound card 
> is "riptide-0.6lnxtbeta03122800.tar.bz2".  You might
> try doing a Web 
> search for those files.  Actually, I don't remember
> whether they were 
> originally compressed in .bz2 format or if they were
> compressed in .gz 
> format and I recompressed them in .bz2 format (as I
> did for a lot of 
> stuff), so make sure you try both extensions.

the address your looking for is
http://www.linuxant.com/drivers/riptide/download.php
and
http://www.linuxant.com/drivers/hsf/full/download.php

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John Carlson
<carlsj@yahoo.com>


		
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