From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S268083AbUJLXdK (ORCPT ); Tue, 12 Oct 2004 19:33:10 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S268080AbUJLXdK (ORCPT ); Tue, 12 Oct 2004 19:33:10 -0400 Received: from 213-239-205-147.clients.your-server.de ([213.239.205.147]:54688 "EHLO debian.tglx.de") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S268083AbUJLXdE (ORCPT ); Tue, 12 Oct 2004 19:33:04 -0400 Subject: Re: [Ext-rt-dev] Re: [ANNOUNCE] Linux 2.6 Real Time Kernel From: Thomas Gleixner Reply-To: tglx@linutronix.de To: Bill Huey Cc: Sven Dietrich , dwalker@mvista.com, Ingo Molnar , Andrew Morton , amakarov@ru.mvista.com, ext-rt-dev@mvista.com, LKML In-Reply-To: <20041012225706.GC30966@nietzsche.lynx.com> References: <20041012211201.GA28590@nietzsche.lynx.com> <20041012225706.GC30966@nietzsche.lynx.com> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: linutronix Message-Id: <1097623513.19549.245.camel@thomas> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.6 Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 01:25:14 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Wed, 2004-10-13 at 00:57, Bill Huey wrote: > But since this is in a commerical context we have to save > face by at least putting our cards on the table and establishing > a sort of role in this community. Yeah, a pretty good way to establish a role by keeping your mouth shut and let others do redundant work. > That commericial development > attitude the reason why I haven't been permitted to talk about > this stuff openly, only sort of on the side in various > preemption discussions. Discuss this with your company. > Yeah, for me a bit of freak out Saturday that is still > kind of happening since this has been a personal project > of mine for a long time. :) I interpreted it as a visibility > move on your company's part, which I hate to say is a bit > unnerving to know that another group was doing the same > work. TimeSys's Scott Wood and friends are doing something > like this as well. I'm only being fair by mentioning them. :) There are other people around who worked on similar things openly. > Well, uh, at least you're single kernel image folks like > us and not flaming us/me yet for corrupting the sancity > of Linux. Oh man, I feel a flame war coming. This is such > touchy material. The flame war might come, ... > What's Monta Vista's attitude toward preemption development ? > open or closed ? I know this is a charged question, but > this has to be asked. :) > > This commerical thing is going to be weird. I wish I was > an angry hippie instead of having a job at certain moments. :) > > But the bay area is pretty damn cool, so... that makes up > for it. :) ... but not about realtime improvements. It might be about: " hey we putting this up to play a role attitude of comapnies". tglx