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From: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
To: David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>
Cc: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>, Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjanv@redhat.com>,
	Joy Latten <latten@us.ibm.com>,
	lkml - Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Fw: signed kernel modules?
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 10:47:51 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1097801271.22673.17.camel@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <16127.1097751772@redhat.com>

On Thu, 2004-10-14 at 21:02, David Howells wrote:
> > I'd prefer to see:
> > 	err = module_verify(hdr, len, &gpgsig_ok);
> > 	if (err)
> > 		goto free_hdr;
> 
> I've been moaned at for doing this before. Other people have told me they
> prefer to see the value returned through the return value since there's enough
> scope.

I suppose this is a matter of taste.  I find it much clearer this way,
to overloading 0 vs 1 returns.

> > And then have module_verify for the !CONFIG_MODULE_SIG case (in
> > module-verify.h) simply be:
> 
> I think it should still check the ELF, even if we're not going to check a
> signature. This permits us to drop a few checks later in the module loading
> process.

Not really: I've never had a single bug report, and I've had a fair
number of bug reports.  Without signed modules, it's really 300 lines of
code for no actual gain.  OTOH, it's going to be in the tree anyway. 
Unless we want to "sign" modules with a straight checksum when
!CONFIG_MODULE_SIG?  I'm not really convinced it's worth it.  Thoughts
welcome.

> > Multiplicative overflow.
> 
> Not so in this ELF incarnation.

Sorry, my bad.

Now we have the code in front of us, I'll ask you to answer honestly. 
Do *you* think that the extra ~600 lines of code is a worthwhile
tradeoff so we can simply strip modules without resigning?  You know my
opinion, but you've done the code, and if you're really convinced of
that, I'll ack it.

(I'm not sure that having a whole GPG format parser in the kernel
matches our minimalistic ideals either, but I can see a much stronger
incentive there: less risk of weakening the signatures, convenience, and
the signing infrastructure can be used for other things).

Cheers,
Rusty.
-- 
Anyone who quotes me in their signature is an idiot -- Rusty Russell


  reply	other threads:[~2004-10-15  0:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 85+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2004-10-11 15:11                                 ` Fw: signed kernel modules? David Howells
2004-10-11 15:15                                   ` David Woodhouse
2004-10-11 22:34                                     ` Rusty Russell (IBM)
2004-10-12  8:35                                       ` David Woodhouse
2004-10-12 19:08                                         ` Greg KH
2004-10-12 19:16                                           ` David Howells
2004-10-12 20:43                                           ` David Howells
2004-10-13  0:20                                           ` Rusty Russell (IBM)
2004-10-13  8:24                                             ` David Woodhouse
2004-10-13  0:11                                         ` Rusty Russell (IBM)
2004-10-13  9:16                                           ` David Woodhouse
2004-10-13 21:21                                             ` Rusty Russell (IBM)
2004-10-13  9:24                                           ` David Howells
2004-10-13 10:42                                           ` Alan Cox
2004-10-13 22:40                                             ` Rusty Russell (IBM)
2004-10-14 10:17                                               ` David Howells
2004-10-15  0:28                                                 ` Rusty Russell (IBM)
2004-10-14 23:44                                               ` Alan Cox
2004-10-15  1:00                                                 ` Rusty Russell (IBM)
2004-10-13 21:18                                           ` David Howells
2004-10-13 21:51                                             ` Roman Zippel
2004-10-14 11:12                                               ` David Howells
2004-10-14 12:01                                                 ` Roman Zippel
2004-10-14 12:11                                                   ` David Woodhouse
2004-10-14 14:22                                                     ` Roman Zippel
2004-10-14 14:30                                                       ` David Woodhouse
2004-10-14 21:03                                                         ` Roman Zippel
2004-10-14 21:24                                                           ` David Woodhouse
2004-10-14 21:36                                                             ` Roman Zippel
2004-10-14 21:52                                                               ` David Woodhouse
2004-10-14 22:15                                                                 ` Roman Zippel
2004-10-14 22:32                                                                   ` David Howells
2004-10-14 22:38                                                                     ` Roman Zippel
2004-10-14 12:14                                                   ` David Howells
2004-10-14 13:08                                                     ` Richard B. Johnson
2004-10-14 14:18                                                       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2004-10-14 14:25                                                         ` Richard B. Johnson
2004-10-14 15:40                                                           ` Richard B. Johnson
2004-10-14 15:50                                                             ` Dave Jones
     [not found]                                                               ` <Pine.LNX.4.61.0410141352590.8479@chaos.analogic.com>
2004-10-14 18:20                                                                 ` Dave Jones
2004-10-14 18:30                                                                   ` Richard B. Johnson
2004-10-14 18:46                                                                     ` Dave Jones
2004-10-14 19:03                                                                       ` Richard B. Johnson
2004-10-14 19:41                                                                         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2004-10-14 21:13                                                                         ` Dave Jones
2004-10-18  1:56                                                       ` Jon Masters
2004-10-13 23:01                                             ` Rusty Russell
2004-10-14 11:02                                               ` David Howells
2004-10-15  0:47                                                 ` Rusty Russell [this message]
2004-10-14 18:09                                             ` David Howells
2004-10-15 11:12                                               ` Roman Zippel
2004-10-15 12:10                                                 ` Richard B. Johnson
2004-10-15 12:31                                                   ` Josh Boyer
2004-10-15 15:53                                                     ` Gene Heskett
2004-10-15 16:17                                                       ` Josh Boyer
2004-10-15 16:59                                                         ` Richard B. Johnson
2004-10-15 17:08                                                           ` David Woodhouse
2004-10-15 17:35                                                             ` Richard B. Johnson
2004-10-15 20:56                                                               ` Lee Revell
2004-10-15 21:18                                                                 ` Greg KH
2004-10-15 21:34                                                                   ` Chris Friesen
2004-10-15 22:08                                                                     ` Richard B. Johnson
2004-10-18 12:53                                                                       ` Richard B. Johnson
2004-10-18 13:53                                                                         ` Matthew Garrett
2004-10-18 14:09                                                                           ` Richard B. Johnson
2004-10-18 16:33                                                                         ` Greg KH
2004-10-18 17:14                                                                           ` Richard B. Johnson
2004-10-18 17:28                                                                             ` Richard B. Johnson
2004-10-15 17:46                                                           ` Josh Boyer
2004-10-15 20:11                                                             ` Tonnerre
2004-10-17 20:18                                                               ` Thomas Weber
2004-10-17 20:52                                                                 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2004-10-17 21:25                                                                   ` Thomas Weber
2004-10-15 12:48                                                   ` Roman Zippel
2004-10-15 15:51                                                   ` Gene Heskett
2004-10-15 14:01                                                 ` David Woodhouse
2004-10-15 14:28                                                   ` Roman Zippel
2004-10-15 15:54                                                   ` Gene Heskett
2004-10-15 16:33                                                     ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-10-14 18:44                                   ` Thomas Weber
2004-10-15 15:37 Chuck Ebbert
2004-10-15 16:05 ` Olivier Galibert
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     [not found] ` <fa.jtpibm5.1l4ki17@ifi.uio.no>
2004-10-17 15:13   ` Bodo Eggert
2004-10-18 11:27     ` Richard B. Johnson
2004-10-23 10:19       ` Bodo Eggert

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