From: "Rusty Russell (IBM)" <rusty@au1.ibm.com>
To: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Cc: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
rusty@ozlabs.au.ibm.com, Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>,
Arjan van de Ven <arjanv@redhat.com>,
Joy Latten <latten@us.ibm.com>,
lkml - Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Fw: signed kernel modules?
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 11:00:27 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1097802027.22673.34.camel@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1097797477.8275.2.camel@localhost.localdomain>
On Fri, 2004-10-15 at 09:44, Alan Cox wrote:
> On Mer, 2004-10-13 at 23:40, Rusty Russell (IBM) wrote:
> > > Whoops bang "num 0 elements". That check set isn't safe standalone
> >
> > Thanks, Alan.
> >
> > I'd appreciate your opinion on the issue at hand. Is it worth 600 lines
> > of ELF verification and canonicalization code so we can strip modules
> > without altering the signature?
>
> I'm unconvinced at the moment, it seems it would be easier to write the
> neccessary code to do this in userspace, and then sign the canonicalised
> module so that the kernel interface is small and clean.
Well, my original implementation carefully found the signature section,
copied it out and zeroed it, then checked the whole module. The two
objections David Howells had was (1) stripping the module after build
breaks this, and (2) his scheme uses straight GPG signatures and they
are of variable length: some wrapper would be needed to handle trailing
zeroes in the signature.
The advantage was the simplicity of the scheme: very short path the
module verification, and no canonicalization step.
Rusty.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-10-15 1:00 UTC|newest]
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2004-10-11 15:11 ` Fw: signed kernel modules? David Howells
2004-10-11 15:15 ` David Woodhouse
2004-10-11 22:34 ` Rusty Russell (IBM)
2004-10-12 8:35 ` David Woodhouse
2004-10-12 19:08 ` Greg KH
2004-10-12 19:16 ` David Howells
2004-10-12 20:43 ` David Howells
2004-10-13 0:20 ` Rusty Russell (IBM)
2004-10-13 8:24 ` David Woodhouse
2004-10-13 0:11 ` Rusty Russell (IBM)
2004-10-13 9:16 ` David Woodhouse
2004-10-13 21:21 ` Rusty Russell (IBM)
2004-10-13 9:24 ` David Howells
2004-10-13 10:42 ` Alan Cox
2004-10-13 22:40 ` Rusty Russell (IBM)
2004-10-14 10:17 ` David Howells
2004-10-15 0:28 ` Rusty Russell (IBM)
2004-10-14 23:44 ` Alan Cox
2004-10-15 1:00 ` Rusty Russell (IBM) [this message]
2004-10-13 21:18 ` David Howells
2004-10-13 21:51 ` Roman Zippel
2004-10-14 11:12 ` David Howells
2004-10-14 12:01 ` Roman Zippel
2004-10-14 12:11 ` David Woodhouse
2004-10-14 14:22 ` Roman Zippel
2004-10-14 14:30 ` David Woodhouse
2004-10-14 21:03 ` Roman Zippel
2004-10-14 21:24 ` David Woodhouse
2004-10-14 21:36 ` Roman Zippel
2004-10-14 21:52 ` David Woodhouse
2004-10-14 22:15 ` Roman Zippel
2004-10-14 22:32 ` David Howells
2004-10-14 22:38 ` Roman Zippel
2004-10-14 12:14 ` David Howells
2004-10-14 13:08 ` Richard B. Johnson
2004-10-14 14:18 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2004-10-14 14:25 ` Richard B. Johnson
2004-10-14 15:40 ` Richard B. Johnson
2004-10-14 15:50 ` Dave Jones
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2004-10-14 18:20 ` Dave Jones
2004-10-14 18:30 ` Richard B. Johnson
2004-10-14 18:46 ` Dave Jones
2004-10-14 19:03 ` Richard B. Johnson
2004-10-14 19:41 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2004-10-14 21:13 ` Dave Jones
2004-10-18 1:56 ` Jon Masters
2004-10-13 23:01 ` Rusty Russell
2004-10-14 11:02 ` David Howells
2004-10-15 0:47 ` Rusty Russell
2004-10-14 18:09 ` David Howells
2004-10-15 11:12 ` Roman Zippel
2004-10-15 12:10 ` Richard B. Johnson
2004-10-15 12:31 ` Josh Boyer
2004-10-15 15:53 ` Gene Heskett
2004-10-15 16:17 ` Josh Boyer
2004-10-15 16:59 ` Richard B. Johnson
2004-10-15 17:08 ` David Woodhouse
2004-10-15 17:35 ` Richard B. Johnson
2004-10-15 20:56 ` Lee Revell
2004-10-15 21:18 ` Greg KH
2004-10-15 21:34 ` Chris Friesen
2004-10-15 22:08 ` Richard B. Johnson
2004-10-18 12:53 ` Richard B. Johnson
2004-10-18 13:53 ` Matthew Garrett
2004-10-18 14:09 ` Richard B. Johnson
2004-10-18 16:33 ` Greg KH
2004-10-18 17:14 ` Richard B. Johnson
2004-10-18 17:28 ` Richard B. Johnson
2004-10-15 17:46 ` Josh Boyer
2004-10-15 20:11 ` Tonnerre
2004-10-17 20:18 ` Thomas Weber
2004-10-17 20:52 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2004-10-17 21:25 ` Thomas Weber
2004-10-15 12:48 ` Roman Zippel
2004-10-15 15:51 ` Gene Heskett
2004-10-15 14:01 ` David Woodhouse
2004-10-15 14:28 ` Roman Zippel
2004-10-15 15:54 ` Gene Heskett
2004-10-15 16:33 ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-10-14 18:44 ` Thomas Weber
2004-10-15 15:37 Chuck Ebbert
2004-10-15 16:05 ` Olivier Galibert
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2004-10-17 15:13 ` Bodo Eggert
2004-10-18 11:27 ` Richard B. Johnson
2004-10-23 10:19 ` Bodo Eggert
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