From: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@SteelEye.com>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Cc: Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, mingo@elte.hu
Subject: Re: [PATCH] add unschedule_delayed_work to the workqueue API
Date: 18 Oct 2004 17:15:41 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1098137747.1714.351.camel@mulgrave> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20041018150217.0fbf714f.akpm@osdl.org>
On Mon, 2004-10-18 at 17:02, Andrew Morton wrote:
> James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@SteelEye.com> wrote:
> >
> > > > OK, found it in the headers, sorry .. it's not synchronous, so it can't
> > > > really be used in most of the cases where we use del_timer_sync().
> > >
> > > cancel_delayed_work() will tell you whether it successfully cancelled the
> > > timer. If it didn't, you should run flush_workqueue() to wait on the final
> > > handler. The combination of the two is synchronous.
> >
> > Right, but it potentially does too much work for my purposes.
>
> Are you sure?
I'm positive the potential is there.
> > I want to
> > cancel the work if it's cancellable or wait for it if it's already
> > executing. I don't want to have to wait for all the work in the queue
> > just because the timer fired and it got added to the workqueue schedule.
>
> The probability that the handler is running when you call
> cancel_delayed_work() is surely very low. And the probability that there
> is more than one thing pending in the queue at that time is also low.
> Multiplying them both together, then multiplying that by the relative
> expense of the handler makes me say "show me" ;)
OK. In the current code, domain validation is done from the workqueue
interface. This can take several seconds per target to complete. Why
should I have to wait this extra time. As I move other SCSI daemon
threads to being work queue items, these times rise.
However, now there's a worse problem. If I want to cancel a piece of
work synchronously, flush_scheduled_work() makes me dependent on the
execution of all the prior pieces of work. If some of them are related,
like Domain Validation and device unlocking say, I have to now be
extremely careful that the place I cancel and flush from isn't likely to
deadlock with any other work scheduled on the device. This makes it a
hard to use interface. By contrast, the proposed patch will *only* wait
if the item of work is currently executing. This is a (OK reasonably
given the aic del_timer_sync() issues) well understood deadlock
problem---the main point being I now don't have to consider any of the
other work that might be queued.
James
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-10-18 22:15 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-10-18 16:31 [PATCH] add unschedule_delayed_work to the workqueue API James Bottomley
2004-10-18 21:25 ` Andrew Morton
2004-10-18 21:26 ` James Bottomley
2004-10-18 21:29 ` James Bottomley
2004-10-18 21:43 ` Andrew Morton
2004-10-18 21:47 ` James Bottomley
2004-10-18 22:02 ` Andrew Morton
2004-10-18 22:15 ` James Bottomley [this message]
2004-10-18 22:57 ` Andrew Morton
2004-10-18 23:24 ` James Bottomley
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