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From: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@SteelEye.com>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Cc: Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, mingo@elte.hu
Subject: Re: [PATCH] add unschedule_delayed_work to the workqueue API
Date: 18 Oct 2004 17:15:41 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1098137747.1714.351.camel@mulgrave> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20041018150217.0fbf714f.akpm@osdl.org>

On Mon, 2004-10-18 at 17:02, Andrew Morton wrote:
> James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@SteelEye.com> wrote:
> >
> > > > OK, found it in the headers, sorry .. it's not synchronous, so it can't
> > > > really be used in most of the cases where we use del_timer_sync().
> > > 
> > > cancel_delayed_work() will tell you whether it successfully cancelled the
> > > timer.  If it didn't, you should run flush_workqueue() to wait on the final
> > > handler.  The combination of the two is synchronous.
> > 
> > Right, but it potentially does too much work for my purposes.
> 
> Are you sure?

I'm positive the potential is there.

> >  I want to
> > cancel the work if it's cancellable or wait for it if it's already
> > executing.  I don't want to have to wait for all the work in the queue
> > just because the timer fired and it got added to the workqueue schedule.
> 
> The probability that the handler is running when you call
> cancel_delayed_work() is surely very low.  And the probability that there
> is more than one thing pending in the queue at that time is also low. 
> Multiplying them both together, then multiplying that by the relative
> expense of the handler makes me say "show me" ;)

OK.  In the current code, domain validation is done from the workqueue
interface.  This can take several seconds per target to complete.  Why
should I have to wait this extra time.  As I move other SCSI daemon
threads to being work queue items, these times rise.

However, now there's a worse problem.  If I want to cancel a piece of
work synchronously, flush_scheduled_work() makes me dependent on the
execution of all the prior pieces of work.  If some of them are related,
like Domain Validation and device unlocking say, I have to now be
extremely careful that the place I cancel and flush from isn't likely to
deadlock with any other work scheduled on the device.  This makes it a
hard to use interface.  By contrast, the proposed patch will *only* wait
if the item of work is currently executing.  This is a (OK reasonably
given the aic del_timer_sync() issues) well understood deadlock
problem---the main point being I now don't have to consider any of the
other work that might be queued.

James



  reply	other threads:[~2004-10-18 22:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-10-18 16:31 [PATCH] add unschedule_delayed_work to the workqueue API James Bottomley
2004-10-18 21:25 ` Andrew Morton
2004-10-18 21:26   ` James Bottomley
2004-10-18 21:29     ` James Bottomley
2004-10-18 21:43       ` Andrew Morton
2004-10-18 21:47         ` James Bottomley
2004-10-18 22:02           ` Andrew Morton
2004-10-18 22:15             ` James Bottomley [this message]
2004-10-18 22:57               ` Andrew Morton
2004-10-18 23:24                 ` James Bottomley

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