From: Albert Cahalan <albert@users.sf.net>
To: linux-kernel mailing list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Cc: miller@techsource.com
Subject: Re: HARDWARE: Open-Source-Friendly Graphics Cards -- Viable?
Date: 21 Oct 2004 00:48:18 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1098334097.9402.958.camel@cube> (raw)
Timothy Miller writes:
> (2) How much would you be willing to pay for it?
>
> (3) How do you feel about the choice of neglecting
> 3D performance as a priority? How important is 3D
> performance? In what cases is it not?
>
> (4) How much extra would you be willing to pay for
> excellent 3D performance?
>
> (5) What's most important to you, performance, price,
> or stability?
Stability with a kernel of my choice on possibly
non-x86 hardware matters most. Digital DVI, fanless
operation, and DVD scaling are next. After that, 3D.
I'm not so sure you have to give up 3D. You can put
at least 4 AltiVec-capable "G4" CPUs on a PCI board
without having horrible power and temperature issues.
(Perhaps an AGP board can safely support even more.)
Each will do 4 32-bit floating-point fused-multiply-add
operations per cycle. That's got to be good for something.
I think the latest chips have built-in memory interfaces.
They have RapidIO interfaces. So you make your FPGA
speak RapidIO protocol (easy) and have each CPU render
every fourth frame.
One could even put the X server on the card.
Ultimately, this is a huge risk, with potentially
great reward. One must take some risks to succeed,
and this one is a whopper.
next reply other threads:[~2004-10-21 5:02 UTC|newest]
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2004-10-21 4:48 Albert Cahalan [this message]
2004-10-21 16:19 ` HARDWARE: Open-Source-Friendly Graphics Cards -- Viable? Timothy Miller
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2004-11-17 14:35 Sid Boyce
2004-11-17 14:46 ` Chris Wedgwood
2004-11-23 13:47 ` Karel Kulhavy
2004-11-23 22:48 ` Timothy Miller
2004-11-24 1:22 ` Sid Boyce
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2004-10-26 15:44 ` Timothy Miller
2004-10-26 16:35 ` Jesper Juhl
2004-10-26 16:57 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-10-26 21:14 ` Helge Hafting
2004-10-26 21:41 ` Timothy Miller
2004-10-23 19:06 Bodo Eggert
2004-10-25 1:44 ` Stephen Wille Padnos
2004-10-25 8:23 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2004-10-22 17:15 Stephen Lewis
2004-10-23 4:45 ` Gene Heskett
2004-10-23 7:06 ` Stephen Lewis
2004-10-22 10:31 John Ripley
2004-10-22 12:58 ` Moritz Muehlenhoff
2004-10-22 17:33 ` Timothy Miller
2004-10-22 3:47 Roy Butler
2004-10-22 17:04 ` Timothy Miller
2004-10-24 18:17 ` Mail Lists
2004-10-25 12:17 ` Bernd Eckenfels
2004-10-21 17:44 John Ripley
2004-10-21 18:26 ` Timothy Miller
2004-10-21 21:36 ` Greg Buchholz
2004-10-21 22:40 ` Timothy Miller
2004-10-21 23:25 ` Jon Smirl
2004-10-21 23:40 ` Greg Buchholz
2004-10-22 16:48 ` Timothy Miller
2004-10-22 16:50 ` Chris Friesen
2004-10-22 17:41 ` Timothy Miller
2004-10-25 23:10 ` Tonnerre
2004-10-26 0:32 ` Werner Almesberger
2004-10-22 15:59 ` Troy Benjegerdes
2004-10-21 17:08 Greg Buchholz
2004-10-22 2:18 ` Tim Connors
2004-10-21 15:54 John Ripley
2004-10-21 18:09 ` Timothy Miller
2004-10-21 21:32 ` Baruch Even
2004-10-25 23:30 ` Werner Almesberger
2004-10-20 23:48 Timothy Miller
2004-10-21 0:30 ` J.A. Magallon
2004-10-21 0:47 ` Timothy Miller
2004-10-22 20:09 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2004-10-21 1:25 ` Zan Lynx
2004-10-21 15:52 ` Timothy Miller
2004-10-20 22:02 Timothy Miller
2004-10-20 22:17 ` Andre Eisenbach
2004-10-21 1:31 ` Jon Valvatne
2004-10-21 16:09 ` Timothy Miller
2004-10-24 19:47 ` Pavel Machek
2004-10-20 22:26 ` David Lang
2004-10-21 14:46 ` Timothy Miller
2004-10-21 17:25 ` David Lang
2004-10-21 18:15 ` Timothy Miller
2004-10-21 18:32 ` Antonio Vargas
2004-10-22 9:53 ` Raphael Jacquot
2004-10-24 9:03 ` Tonnerre
2004-10-25 1:33 ` Stephen Wille Padnos
2004-10-25 1:48 ` Stephen Wille Padnos
2004-10-25 2:29 ` Gene Heskett
2004-10-22 10:16 ` Christian Leber
2004-10-22 17:31 ` Timothy Miller
2004-10-21 19:30 ` Kendall Bennett
2004-10-22 17:05 ` Tobias Diedrich
2004-10-22 17:12 ` Timothy Miller
2004-10-26 2:36 ` Dave Airlie
2004-10-26 3:55 ` Jon Smirl
2004-10-20 22:28 ` Jim Nelson
2004-10-21 14:51 ` Timothy Miller
2004-10-21 22:03 ` Jim Nelson
2004-10-20 22:29 ` Kasper Sandberg
2004-10-21 14:53 ` Timothy Miller
2004-10-21 15:06 ` Simon Braunschmidt
2004-10-21 18:00 ` Timothy Miller
2004-10-20 23:10 ` Alan Cox
2004-10-21 15:10 ` Timothy Miller
2004-10-21 15:25 ` Jon Smirl
2004-10-21 18:03 ` Timothy Miller
2004-10-21 15:32 ` Alan Cox
2004-10-21 19:30 ` Kendall Bennett
2004-10-22 17:15 ` Timothy Miller
2004-10-21 1:08 ` Jon Smirl
2004-10-21 1:11 ` Jon Smirl
2004-10-21 2:00 ` Stephen Wille Padnos
2004-10-21 16:08 ` Timothy Miller
2004-10-21 16:34 ` Stephen Wille Padnos
2004-10-21 23:38 ` Jan Knutar
2004-10-22 4:30 ` Jan Rychter
2004-10-22 17:00 ` Timothy Miller
2004-10-22 17:00 ` Chris Friesen
2004-10-22 18:47 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-10-22 19:22 ` Timothy Miller
2004-10-22 19:33 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-10-22 19:56 ` Timothy Miller
2004-10-22 20:43 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-10-22 20:27 ` Alan Cox
2004-10-23 17:20 ` Francois Romieu
2004-10-23 21:17 ` Alan Cox
2004-10-24 0:06 ` Francois Romieu
2004-10-22 20:51 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-10-22 19:32 ` Roland Dreier
2004-10-24 10:40 ` Helge Hafting
2004-10-25 15:39 ` Timothy Miller
2004-10-21 21:57 ` J.A. Magallon
2004-10-22 9:48 ` Raphael Jacquot
2004-10-21 20:23 ` "Fernando O. Korndörfer"
2004-10-22 9:02 ` Raphael Jacquot
2004-10-21 15:13 ` Timothy Miller
2004-10-21 15:36 ` Shaun Kruger
2004-10-21 18:05 ` Timothy Miller
2004-10-21 19:30 ` Kendall Bennett
2004-10-22 8:49 ` Adrian Cox
2004-10-22 20:10 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2004-10-23 13:17 ` Adrian Cox
2004-10-22 20:10 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2004-10-22 22:07 ` Timothy Miller
2004-10-24 10:45 ` Helge Hafting
2004-10-25 15:47 ` Timothy Miller
2004-10-28 9:07 ` Helge Hafting
2004-10-29 16:00 ` Timothy Miller
2004-10-21 2:29 ` Kurt Wall
2004-10-21 16:10 ` Timothy Miller
2004-10-21 16:22 ` Pascal Patry
2004-10-21 12:20 ` Adrian Bunk
2004-10-21 13:14 ` Simon Braunschmidt
2004-10-21 17:34 ` Jurriaan
2004-10-21 16:26 ` Timothy Miller
2004-10-21 17:42 ` Alan Cox
2004-10-21 19:09 ` Timothy Miller
2004-10-21 17:53 ` Tobias Diedrich
2004-10-21 23:02 ` Florian Schmidt
2004-10-24 1:04 ` Lee Revell
2004-10-22 1:08 ` Rene Herman
2004-10-23 5:40 ` Kevin Puetz
2004-10-23 17:02 ` Rene Herman
2004-10-23 22:19 ` Lee Revell
2004-10-24 11:10 ` Rene Herman
2004-10-22 10:57 ` Helge Hafting
2004-10-22 19:47 ` Giuseppe Bilotta
2004-10-22 20:15 ` Giuseppe Bilotta
2004-10-25 15:29 ` Tonnerre
2004-10-25 15:53 ` Timothy Miller
2004-10-25 16:32 ` Giuliano Pochini
2004-10-28 9:37 ` Helge Hafting
2004-10-28 11:40 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2004-10-28 12:21 ` David Greaves
2004-10-29 16:04 ` Timothy Miller
2004-10-22 22:27 ` Clemens Schwaighofer
2004-10-23 14:36 ` Markus Törnqvist
2004-10-24 8:18 ` Tonnerre
2004-10-25 11:54 ` Stuart Longland
2004-10-25 16:38 ` Lars Roland
2004-10-25 17:08 ` Timothy Miller
2004-10-26 21:02 ` Helge Hafting
2004-10-26 21:38 ` Timothy Miller
2004-10-25 22:52 ` Tonnerre
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