From: Lee Revell <rlrevell@joe-job.com>
To: Denis Vlasenko <vda@port.imtp.ilyichevsk.odessa.ua>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>, Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: code bloat [was Re: Semaphore assembly-code bug]
Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 18:25:38 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1099175138.1424.18.camel@krustophenia.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200410310111.07086.vda@port.imtp.ilyichevsk.odessa.ua>
On Sun, 2004-10-31 at 01:11 +0300, Denis Vlasenko wrote:
> Well, I can try to compile packages with different options
> for size, I can link against small libc, but I feel this
> does not solve the problem: the code itself is bloated...
>
> I am not a code genius, but want to help.
>
> Hmm probably some bloat-detection tools would be helpful,
> like "show me source_lines/object_size ratios of fonctions in
> this ELF object file". Those with low ratio are suspects of
> excessive inlining etc.
>
> More ideas, anyone?
I ageww it's a hard problem. Right now there is massive pressure on
Linux application developers to add features to catch up with MS and
Apple. This inevitably leads to bloat, we all know that efficiency is
the first thing to go out the window in that situation, the problem is
exacerbated by the wide availability of fast machines. It's an old,
depressing story...
That being said it would indeed be nice if we had more tools to quantify
bloat.
Lee
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-10-30 22:25 UTC|newest]
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2004-10-30 2:13 ` Andi Kleen
2004-10-30 9:28 ` Denis Vlasenko
2004-10-30 17:53 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-10-30 21:00 ` Denis Vlasenko
2004-10-30 21:14 ` code bloat [was Re: Semaphore assembly-code bug] Lee Revell
2004-10-30 22:11 ` Denis Vlasenko
2004-10-30 22:25 ` Lee Revell [this message]
2004-10-31 14:06 ` Diego Calleja
2004-10-31 20:53 ` Z Smith
2004-10-31 23:35 ` Rogério Brito
2004-11-01 1:20 ` Z Smith
2004-11-01 14:48 ` Diego Calleja
2004-11-01 15:09 ` [OT] " Russell Miller
2004-10-30 22:27 ` Tim Hockin
2004-10-30 22:44 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-10-30 22:50 ` Tim Hockin
2004-10-31 20:15 ` Theodore Ts'o
2004-10-31 20:21 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-10-31 21:06 ` Jan Engelhardt
2004-11-01 11:27 ` Alan Cox
2004-11-01 13:40 ` Denis Vlasenko
2004-11-01 23:04 ` Alan Cox
2004-10-30 23:13 ` Denis Vlasenko
2004-10-30 22:45 ` Alan Cox
2004-10-31 1:21 ` Z Smith
2004-10-31 2:47 ` Jim Nelson
2004-10-31 15:19 ` Alan Cox
2004-10-31 20:18 ` Z Smith
2004-11-01 11:05 ` Alan Cox
2004-10-30 23:20 ` [OT] " Lee Revell
2004-10-30 22:52 ` Alan Cox
2004-10-31 1:09 ` Ken Moffat
2004-10-31 2:42 ` Tim Connors
2004-10-31 4:45 ` Paul
2004-10-31 14:44 ` Alan Cox
2004-10-31 0:48 ` Andi Kleen
2004-10-30 23:28 ` Tim Hockin
2004-10-31 2:04 ` Michael Clark
2004-10-31 6:49 ` Jan Engelhardt
2004-10-31 21:09 ` Z Smith
2004-10-31 21:13 ` Jan Engelhardt
2004-10-31 21:48 ` Z Smith
2004-11-01 11:29 ` Alan Cox
2004-11-01 12:36 ` Jan Engelhardt
2004-11-01 15:17 ` Lee Revell
2004-11-01 16:56 ` Kristian Høgsberg
2004-10-31 6:37 ` Jan Engelhardt
2004-10-31 0:39 ` Semaphore assembly-code bug Andi Kleen
2004-10-31 1:43 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-10-31 2:04 ` Andi Kleen
2004-11-01 14:26 code bloat [was Re: Semaphore assembly-code bug] Ian Kumlien
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