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From: Robert Love <rml@novell.com>
To: Larry McVoy <lm@bitmover.com>
Cc: Adrian Bunk <bunk@stusta.de>,
	Xavier Bestel <xavier.bestel@free.fr>,
	James Bruce <bruce@andrew.cmu.edu>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>,
	Roman Zippel <zippel@linux-m68k.org>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@novell.com>,
	Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: BK kernel workflow
Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 20:28:32 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1099182512.6034.147.camel@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20041030234619.GB24640@work.bitmover.com>

On Sat, 2004-10-30 at 16:46 -0700, Larry McVoy wrote:

> If there are reasonable people out there who feel this way then let's
> figure out some sort of public contract or something that makes it clear
> that we have no designs on the Linux kernel.  That's just wacko but if
> a lot of people think that then lets fix that.  By the way, with all
> due respect, Andrea & Roman are not "reasonable" people in this context.
> Let's find some reasonable people who are not BK users and make sure they
> are comfortable with what is going on.  Alan Cox, Al Viro, who else?
> I don't really care if it is non-BK users, BK users, or a combination,
> I just care that there is some sanity in the discussion.

I am a non-BK user[1].  And I see this as a total non-issue.

	Robert Love

[1] While I am no fan of the license, the real reason I don't use BK is
because I don't think it currently makes sense for developers who are
not also maintainers.  BK really shines when you have people above
(Linus, Andrew) and below (other developers) you.  E.g., it makes sense
for Greg K-H.  Not so much for me or, say, Ingo.  It is the push-pull
relationship where BK shines.  Your comment that you were looking at
improving workloads like Andrew's interests me.



  parent reply	other threads:[~2004-10-31  0:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 161+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <41752E53.8060103@pobox.com>
     [not found] ` <20041019153126.GG18939@work.bitmover.com>
2004-10-19 16:06   ` BK kernel workflow Jeff Garzik
2004-10-19 21:33     ` Paolo Ciarrocchi
2004-10-19 21:38       ` Jeff Garzik
2004-10-19 21:54         ` Paolo Ciarrocchi
2004-10-19 22:11           ` Linus Torvalds
2004-10-20  7:35             ` Paolo Ciarrocchi
2004-10-23 16:12             ` Larry McVoy
2004-10-24 10:24               ` Paolo Ciarrocchi
2004-10-24 14:44                 ` Larry McVoy
2004-10-24 16:44                   ` Paolo Ciarrocchi
2004-10-24 23:32                     ` Larry McVoy
2004-10-25 11:33                       ` Matthias Urlichs
2004-10-25 11:46                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-10-25 12:29                         ` Joe Perches
2004-10-25 13:39                           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-10-25 15:14                             ` Linus Torvalds
2004-10-25 15:43                               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-10-25 16:10                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-10-25 17:22                                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-10-25 20:04                                 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-10-26  2:19                                   ` Miles Bader
2004-10-25 16:20                             ` Larry McVoy
2004-10-25 16:47                               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-10-25 17:12                                 ` Larry McVoy
2004-10-25 17:34                                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-10-25 17:18                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-10-25 17:37                                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-10-26  0:06                                   ` Roman Zippel
2004-10-26  0:51                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2004-10-26  2:21                                       ` Miles Bader
2004-10-27  2:05                                       ` Roman Zippel
2004-10-27  3:00                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2004-10-27  4:18                                           ` Larry McVoy
2004-10-27 16:45                                             ` Matthias Urlichs
2004-10-27 18:12                                             ` Buddy Lucas
2004-10-27 20:56                                           ` Roman Zippel
2004-10-27 21:20                                             ` Linus Torvalds
2004-10-28  1:14                                               ` Roman Zippel
2004-10-28  1:34                                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-10-27 21:45                                             ` Alan Cox
2004-10-31 19:50                                               ` Pavel Machek
2004-10-28  9:20                                           ` James Bruce
2004-10-28 11:39                                             ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2004-10-28 13:53                                             ` Larry McVoy
2004-10-28 14:06                                               ` Xavier Bestel
2004-10-28 15:10                                                 ` Larry McVoy
2004-10-28 19:20                                                   ` Alan Cox
2004-10-28 19:25                                                   ` David Schwartz
2004-10-28 19:38                                                     ` Kevin P. Fleming
2004-10-28 19:22                                                       ` Alan Cox
2004-10-28 23:22                                                       ` David Schwartz
2004-10-28 23:59                                                         ` David S. Miller
2004-10-29  0:25                                                           ` David Schwartz
2004-10-29 14:31                                                             ` Scott Lockwood
2004-10-29 14:35                                                               ` Xavier Bestel
2004-10-29 17:02                                                               ` The requested ruling (Was: BK kernel workflow) Scott Lockwood
2004-10-30  2:08                                                                 ` David Schwartz
2004-10-28 19:59                                                   ` BK kernel workflow Adrian Bunk
2004-10-28 21:35                                                     ` Larry McVoy
2004-10-30  6:51                                                       ` Adrian Bunk
2004-10-30 23:46                                                         ` Larry McVoy
2004-10-30 23:05                                                           ` Alan Cox
2004-10-31 17:47                                                             ` Larry McVoy
2004-10-31  0:28                                                           ` Robert Love [this message]
2004-10-31  1:11                                                           ` Adrian Bunk
2004-10-29 17:19                                                   ` Ramón Rey Vicente
2004-10-29 17:36                                                     ` Larry McVoy
2004-10-29 18:06                                                       ` Stephen Frost
2004-10-29 18:20                                                         ` Larry McVoy
2004-10-29 18:08                                                       ` Ramón Rey Vicente
2004-10-29 18:21                                                         ` Larry McVoy
2004-10-29 18:33                                                         ` Scott Lockwood
2004-10-29 18:55                                                           ` Ramón Rey Vicente
2004-10-29 19:14                                                             ` Scott Lockwood
2004-10-30  5:04                                                               ` Kyle Moffett
2004-10-30 20:42                                                                 ` Scott Lockwood
2004-10-30 23:35                                                                   ` Larry McVoy
2004-10-31  0:20                                                                     ` David Schwartz
2004-10-31  2:37                                                                     ` Kyle Moffett
2004-10-31  3:34                                                                       ` Larry McVoy
2004-10-31  4:01                                                                         ` Kyle Moffett
2004-10-31  4:39                                                                           ` Larry McVoy
2004-10-31  2:44                                                                   ` Kyle Moffett
2004-10-29 19:39                                                             ` Larry McVoy
2004-10-29 20:33                                                               ` Stephen Frost
2004-10-29 23:38                                                                 ` Ramón Rey Vicente
2004-10-29 21:11                                                               ` Adrian Bunk
2004-10-30  2:39                                                               ` Larry McVoy
2004-10-30  2:02                                                             ` Al Viro
2004-10-29 19:13                                                           ` Ramón Rey Vicente
     [not found]                                                             ` <45898.65.208.227.246.1099077395.squirrel@www.lrsehosting.com>
2004-10-29 19:26                                                               ` Ramón Rey Vicente
2004-10-29 23:01                                                                 ` Tim Hockin
2004-10-29 20:32                                                       ` Roman Zippel
2004-10-29 22:41                                                         ` Larry McVoy
2004-10-30 11:38                                                           ` Roman Zippel
2004-10-31 21:03                                                       ` Pavel Machek
2004-10-31 21:14                                                         ` Larry McVoy
2004-10-31 21:21                                                           ` Pavel Machek
2004-10-31 21:35                                                             ` Larry McVoy
2004-10-31 21:46                                                               ` Pavel Machek
2004-10-31 23:44                                                                 ` Larry McVoy
2004-11-01  3:16                                                                   ` Kyle Moffett
2004-11-01  4:57                                                                     ` Larry McVoy
2004-11-01  8:39                                                         ` Pavel Machek
2004-10-26  1:01                                     ` Larry McVoy
2004-10-27  2:30                                       ` Roman Zippel
2004-10-27  3:54                                         ` Larry McVoy
2004-10-27 20:58                                           ` Roman Zippel
2004-10-27 21:16                                             ` Joe Perches
2004-10-28  0:54                                             ` Larry McVoy
2004-10-28  1:49                                               ` Roman Zippel
2004-10-28  2:35                                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-10-28  3:09                                                 ` Larry McVoy
2004-10-28 21:03                                                   ` Roman Zippel
2004-10-28 21:39                                                     ` Eric Mudama
2004-10-28 22:45                                                     ` Larry McVoy
2004-10-28 22:54                                                       ` Roman Zippel
2004-10-29  8:09                                                       ` Manu Abraham
2004-10-29 14:28                                                         ` Scott Lockwood
2004-10-29 15:49                                                         ` Roman Zippel
2004-10-29 16:41                                                           ` David Schwartz
2004-10-29 17:20                                                             ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-10-30  0:41                                                               ` David Schwartz
2004-10-29 19:03                                                             ` Chris Friesen
2004-10-29 20:00                                                               ` Ryan Anderson
2004-10-30  0:41                                                               ` David Schwartz
2004-10-31 20:47                                               ` Pavel Machek
2004-10-31 20:53                                                 ` Larry McVoy
2004-10-31 22:07                                                 ` Sam Ravnborg
2004-10-28  1:05                                             ` Theodore Ts'o
     [not found]                                   ` <mailman.1098759000.989.linux-kernel2news@redhat.com>
2004-10-30  3:55                                     ` Pete Zaitcev
2004-10-25 19:51                                 ` Matthias Urlichs
2004-10-26  0:58                                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-10-26  2:23                                     ` Miles Bader
2004-10-25 18:18                               ` Jon Smirl
2004-10-25 23:01                                 ` Larry McVoy
2004-10-26  1:28                                   ` Chris Wedgwood
2004-10-26  2:26                                   ` Jon Smirl
2004-10-26  6:57                                     ` Matthias Urlichs
2004-10-26 13:09                                   ` Giuseppe Bilotta
2004-10-24 17:44                 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-10-24 17:48                   ` Linus Torvalds
2004-10-24 18:39                     ` Michael Buesch
2004-10-26  7:32                       ` Matthias Urlichs
2004-10-24 22:33                   ` Roman Zippel
2004-10-24 23:04                     ` Linus Torvalds
2004-10-19 23:27           ` Greg KH
2004-10-25 13:01             ` Matthias Urlichs
2004-10-25 14:39               ` Paolo Ciarrocchi
2004-10-25 15:48               ` Jeff Garzik
2004-10-25 16:35                 ` Matthias Urlichs
2004-10-25 22:05                 ` Andrew Morton
2004-10-20  8:31     ` maximilian attems
2004-10-20  9:05       ` Jeff Garzik
2004-10-26  7:38 Chuck Ebbert
2004-10-26 14:23 ` Larry McVoy
2004-10-26 18:16   ` Ryan Anderson
2004-10-26 19:22     ` Larry McVoy
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-10-26 15:54 Chuck Ebbert
2004-10-26 20:47 ` Larry McVoy
     [not found] <fa.gikv4k0.1tk6shk@ifi.uio.no>
     [not found] ` <fa.d7r9f2v.1i6a6on@ifi.uio.no>
2004-10-30 20:54   ` walt

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