From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S266875AbUKAPqJ (ORCPT ); Mon, 1 Nov 2004 10:46:09 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S265437AbUKAPhm (ORCPT ); Mon, 1 Nov 2004 10:37:42 -0500 Received: from viper.oldcity.dca.net ([216.158.38.4]:58067 "HELO viper.oldcity.dca.net") by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id S261949AbUKAPRh (ORCPT ); Mon, 1 Nov 2004 10:17:37 -0500 Subject: Re: code bloat [was Re: Semaphore assembly-code bug] From: Lee Revell To: Jan Engelhardt Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, xorg@freedesktop.org In-Reply-To: References: <417550FB.8020404@drdos.com.suse.lists.linux.kernel> <200410310000.38019.vda@port.imtp.ilyichevsk.odessa.ua> <1099170891.1424.1.camel@krustophenia.net> <200410310111.07086.vda@port.imtp.ilyichevsk.odessa.ua> <20041030222720.GA22753@hockin.org> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 01 Nov 2004 10:17:33 -0500 Message-Id: <1099322253.3647.5.camel@krustophenia.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Sun, 2004-10-31 at 07:49 +0100, Jan Engelhardt wrote: > Z Smith wrote: > >Or join me in my effort to limit bloat. Why use an X server > >that uses 15-30 megs of RAM when you can use FBUI which is 25 kilobytes > >of code with very minimal kmallocing? > > FBUI does not have 3d acceleration? Um I don't think chucking X is the answer. The problem is that it's embarassingly slow compared to any modern GUI. If the display were as snappy as WinXP I don't care if it's 200MB. On my desktop I constantly see windows redrawing every freaking widget in situations where XP would just blit from an offscreen buffer or something. Anyway please keep replies off LKML and on the Xorg list... Lee