From: Finn Thain <fthain@linux-m68k.org>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Lance Yang <lance.yang@linux.dev>,
Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>,
Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@kernel.org>,
Eero Tamminen <oak@helsinkinet.fi>,
Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
stable@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] atomic: Specify natural alignment for atomic_t
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2025 19:53:52 +1000 (AEST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <10b5aaae-5947-53a9-88bb-802daafd83d4@linux-m68k.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250827115447.GR3289052@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net>
On Wed, 27 Aug 2025, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 27, 2025 at 05:17:19PM +1000, Finn Thain wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, 25 Aug 2025, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> >
> > > On Mon, Aug 25, 2025 at 06:03:23PM +1000, Finn Thain wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, 25 Aug 2025, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > And your architecture doesn't trap on unaligned atomic access ?!!?!
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Right. This port doesn't do SMP.
> > >
> > > There is RMW_INSN which seems to imply a compare-and-swap instruction of
> > > sorts. That is happy to work on unaligned storage?
> > >
> >
> > Yes, the TAS and CAS instructions are happy to work on unaligned storage.
> >
> > However, these operations involve an indivisible bus cycle that hogs the
> > bus to the detriment of other processors, DMA controllers etc. So I
> > suspect lock alignment would tend to shorten read-modify-write cycles, and
> > improve efficiency, when CONFIG_RMW_INSN is enabled.
> >
> > Most m68k platforms will have CONFIG_RMW_INSN disabled, or else simply
> > don't implement TAS and CAS. In this case, lock alignment might still
> > help, just because L1 cache entries are long words. I've not tried to
> > measure this.
>
> Fair enough; this sounds a little like the x86 LOCK prefix, it will work
> on unaligned memory, but at tremendous cost (recent chips have an
> optional exception on unaligned).
>
> Anyway, I'm not opposed to adding an explicit alignment to atomic_t.
> Isn't s32 or __s32 already having this?
>
For Linux/m68k, __alignof__(__s32) == 2 and __alignof__(s32) == 2.
> But I think it might make sense to have a DEBUG alignment check right
> along with adding that alignment, just to make sure things are indeed /
> stay aligned.
>
A run-time assertion seems surperfluous as long as other architectures
already trap for misaligned locks. For m68k, perhaps we could have a
compile-time check:
--- a/arch/m68k/kernel/setup_mm.c
+++ b/arch/m68k/kernel/setup_mm.c
@@ -371,6 +371,12 @@ void __init setup_arch(char **cmdline_p)
}
#endif
#endif
+
+ /*
+ * 680x0 CPUs don't require aligned storage for atomic ops.
+ * However, alignment assumptions may appear in core kernel code.
+ */
+ BUILD_BUG_ON(__alignof__(atomic_t) < sizeof(atomic_t));
}
But I'm not sure that arch/m68k is a good place for that kind of thing --
my inclination would be to place such compile-time assertions closer to
the code that rests on that assertion, like in hung_task.c or mutex.c.
E.g.
--- a/kernel/locking/mutex.c
+++ b/kernel/locking/mutex.c
@@ -54,8 +54,6 @@ __mutex_init(struct mutex *lock, const char *name,
struct lock_class_key *key)
#endif
debug_mutex_init(lock, name, key);
+
+ BUILD_BUG_ON(__alignof__(lock->owner) < sizeof(lock->owner));
}
EXPORT_SYMBOL(__mutex_init);
Is that the kind of check you had in mind? I'm open to suggestions.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-08-28 9:53 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-08-25 2:03 [PATCH] atomic: Specify natural alignment for atomic_t Finn Thain
2025-08-25 3:27 ` Lance Yang
2025-08-25 3:59 ` Finn Thain
2025-08-25 4:22 ` Lance Yang
2025-08-25 4:07 ` Finn Thain
2025-08-25 5:00 ` Lance Yang
2025-08-25 6:17 ` Finn Thain
2025-08-25 7:46 ` Lance Yang
2025-08-25 10:49 ` Finn Thain
2025-08-25 11:19 ` Lance Yang
2025-08-25 11:36 ` Lance Yang
2025-08-27 23:43 ` Finn Thain
2025-08-28 2:05 ` Lance Yang
2025-09-01 8:45 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2025-09-02 13:30 ` Lance Yang
2025-09-02 14:14 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2025-08-25 12:07 ` David Laight
2025-08-25 12:33 ` Lance Yang
2025-08-27 8:00 ` Finn Thain
2025-08-27 9:34 ` Lance Yang
2025-09-01 8:48 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2025-08-25 7:12 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-08-25 8:03 ` Finn Thain
2025-08-25 11:41 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-08-27 7:17 ` Finn Thain
2025-08-27 11:54 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-08-28 9:53 ` Finn Thain [this message]
2025-09-01 9:36 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-09-01 9:40 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-08-26 15:22 ` Eero Tamminen
2025-08-26 17:33 ` Lance Yang
2025-09-01 8:51 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2025-09-01 15:12 ` Eero Tamminen
2025-08-27 2:45 ` Masami Hiramatsu
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