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From: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
To: dean gaudet <dean-list-linux-kernel@arctic.org>
Cc: "Pallipadi, Venkatesh" <venkatesh.pallipadi@intel.com>,
	john stultz <johnstul@us.ibm.com>,
	lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: RE: [patch] prefer TSC over PM Timer
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 15:31:35 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1100705495.32698.38.camel@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0411161738370.13681@twinlark.arctic.org>

On Mer, 2004-11-17 at 01:50, dean gaudet wrote:
> on a tangent... has the local apic timer ever been considered?  it's fixed 
> rate, and my measurements show it in the same performance ballpark as TSC.
> 

It would certainly work for the SMP cases which are most of the "hard"
cases where TSC breaks. This seems to be a good path to me and although
C3 would fail as has been pointed out a C3 resume is sufficiently
expensive that fixing up the tsc offset on the resume from PMTMR isn't
going to kill anyone.

> hey wait, what exactly is the problem with TSC on NUMA?  don't you just 
> need some per-cpu data (epoch and calibration) to make it work?

You have unrelated clocks that drift over time. You can't just calibrate
them.
Its different to the BP6 for example where you at least know the CPU
clocks are fixed ratio. 

  parent reply	other threads:[~2004-11-17 16:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-11-16 18:27 [patch] prefer TSC over PM Timer Pallipadi, Venkatesh
2004-11-17  1:50 ` dean gaudet
2004-11-17 10:43   ` Mikael Pettersson
2004-11-17 14:19   ` Dmitry Torokhov
2004-11-17 15:31   ` Alan Cox [this message]
2004-11-17 17:48     ` summary (Re: [patch] prefer TSC over PM Timer) dean gaudet
2004-11-17 22:30       ` George Anzinger
2004-11-17 23:09         ` john stultz
2004-11-17 23:24           ` George Anzinger
2004-11-18  2:01   ` [patch] prefer TSC over PM Timer Krzysztof Halasa
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-11-17 15:08 Pallipadi, Venkatesh
2004-11-16  0:23 dean gaudet
2004-11-16  1:38 ` john stultz
2004-11-16  3:21   ` dean gaudet
2004-11-16  9:50     ` john stultz
2004-11-16 20:29       ` Dominik Brodowski
2004-11-16 21:06         ` john stultz
2004-11-16  8:11   ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-11-16  9:36     ` john stultz
2004-11-17 15:25     ` Alan Cox
2004-11-17 15:25 ` Alan Cox
2004-11-17 17:23   ` Chris Friesen

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