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From: Evgeniy Polyakov <johnpol@2ka.mipt.ru>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	greg@kroah.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: 2.6.11-rc2-mm1
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 11:31:07 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1106728267.5257.116.camel@uganda> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050125224247.GA29849@infradead.org>

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On Tue, 2005-01-25 at 22:42 +0000, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> > Zeroing can be found easily - the whole structure is NULL pointer, 
> > and will always panic if accessed(from running superio code), 
> > but redzoning is only happen on borders,
> > and can catch writes over the boards, which is rarely in this case.
> 
> As I mentioned the redzoning was a brainfar on my side.  Slab debug
> code memsets all code with an easily recognizable pattern (which 0 is _NOT_).
> 
> So this is totally useless, please don't do it - as all major subsystems
> don't do it either.

Ok, I do not insist.

> > Each superio chip is registered with superio core without any devices.
> > Each logical device is registered with superio core without any superio
> > chip.
> > 
> > Then core checks if some chip is found in some superio device, and
> > links 
> > it to appropriate device.
> > So if board has several superio chips(like soekris board) and several
> > logical devices in it, then we only have 2 superio small drivers, and
> > several 
> > logical device drivers, but not
> > number_of_superio_chips*number_of_logical_devices drivers.
> 
> That's how just about any bus driver works so far.
> 
> Now somewhere else in the thread I read the a single logical device
> might belong to multiple superio devices.  Which is kinda odd, but in
> that case it's indeed needed.
> 
> So please add a big comment explaining that properperty because it
> is extemly uncommon, and make 'ptr' in the chain structure typed
> instead of void *

Ok.

> > Yes, and it is better than removing module whose structures are in use.
> > SuperIO core is asynchronous in it's nature, one can use logical device 
> > through superio core and remove it's module on other CPU, above loop
> > will
> > wait untill all reference counters are dropped.
> 
> General rule is: increment module reference count while the hardware
> is actually in use, and let device structures be allocated by the
> bus core so drivers can be freed with them still allocated.  That's
> how the driver model and thus about every other subsystem works.

It is not general rule - network stack does not have such mechanism,
which is 
very good, I doubt each block device module increment it's module
reference
when it catch a request...
It is internal structure that has reference counter, not module itself,
and this 
structure may be in use, when module is unloaded, thus unloading must
wait, 
untill all it's structures are freed.

-- 
        Evgeniy Polyakov

Crash is better than data corruption -- Arthur Grabowski

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  reply	other threads:[~2005-01-26  8:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 152+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-01-18  7:21 [PATCH] Some fixes for compat ioctl Andi Kleen
2005-01-18 10:34 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2005-01-18 10:45 ` [PATCH 1/5] compat_ioctl call seems to miss a security hook Michael S. Tsirkin
2005-01-18 19:22   ` Chris Wright
2005-01-20  0:28     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2005-01-20  0:43       ` Chris Wright
2005-01-20  1:06         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2005-01-20  1:16           ` Chris Wright
2005-01-20  1:42             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2005-01-18 10:48 ` [PATCH 2/5] socket ioctl fix (from Andi) Michael S. Tsirkin
2005-01-18 10:55   ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-01-18 11:01     ` Andi Kleen
2005-01-18 10:52 ` [PATCH 3/5] make common ioctls apply for compat Michael S. Tsirkin
2005-01-18 10:57 ` [PATCH 4/5] reminder comment about register_ioctl32_conversion Michael S. Tsirkin
2005-01-18 11:04 ` [PATCH 5/5] symmetry between compat_ioctl and unlocked_ioctl Michael S. Tsirkin
2005-01-24 10:15   ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Andrew Morton
2005-01-24 10:36     ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Adrian Bunk
2005-01-24 11:17     ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1: v4l-saa7134-module compile error Adrian Bunk
2005-01-24 13:57       ` Gerd Knorr
2005-01-24 17:45         ` Adrian Bunk
2005-01-25 10:15           ` Gerd Knorr
2005-01-25 10:38             ` Adrian Bunk
2005-01-24 11:56     ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Brice Goglin
2005-01-24 13:41       ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Brice Goglin
2005-01-24 14:35         ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Florian Bohrer
2005-01-24 18:52       ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Dave Jones
2005-01-24 20:44         ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Dave Jones
2005-01-24 21:31           ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Brice Goglin
2005-01-25 19:38             ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Dave Jones
2005-01-25 19:58               ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Brice Goglin
2005-01-25 20:29                 ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Dave Jones
2005-01-24 12:12     ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Christoph Hellwig
2005-01-24 20:36       ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Karsten Keil
2005-01-24 23:26         ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Christoph Hellwig
2005-01-25  0:35           ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Karsten Keil
2005-01-24 23:32         ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2005-01-24 21:03       ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Andrew Morton
2005-01-24 12:17     ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Christoph Hellwig
2005-01-31 22:42       ` [patch] generic notification layer Robert Love
2005-02-07 11:57       ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Ingo Molnar
2005-02-07 17:30         ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Robert Love
2005-02-07 21:02           ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 John McCutchan
2005-01-24 12:25     ` [-mm patch] fix SuperIO compilation Adrian Bunk
2005-01-24 12:34       ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-01-24 13:04         ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-01-24 13:56           ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-01-24 14:14             ` [1/1] superio: remove unneded exports and make some functions static Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-01-25  6:19               ` Greg KH
2005-01-24 12:48     ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1: DVB compile error Adrian Bunk
2005-01-24 23:56       ` [linux-dvb-maintainer] " Johannes Stezenbach
2005-01-24 13:52     ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Roman Zippel
2005-01-24 14:24     ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Christoph Hellwig
2005-01-24 14:58     ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Benoit Boissinot
2005-01-24 15:11     ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 [compile fix] Benoit Boissinot
2005-01-24 17:25       ` Adrian Bunk
2005-01-24 17:54     ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1: SuperIO scx200 breakage Adrian Bunk
2005-01-24 18:43       ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-01-24 18:29         ` Adrian Bunk
2005-01-24 19:19           ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-01-24 19:03             ` Adrian Bunk
2005-01-24 19:46               ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-01-24 18:41         ` Jurriaan
2005-01-24 19:23           ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-01-24 19:05             ` Adrian Bunk
2005-01-24 19:39               ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-01-24 19:32                 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-01-24 20:28                   ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-01-27 15:19         ` Bill Davidsen
2005-01-27 16:21           ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-01-27 23:12             ` Bill Davidsen
2005-01-24 20:33       ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-01-24 21:10         ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-01-24 21:34       ` Greg KH
2005-01-24 21:47         ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-01-25  6:02           ` Greg KH
2005-01-25  7:11             ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-01-25 18:59             ` Jean Delvare
2005-01-25 21:39               ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-01-25 21:40                 ` Jean Delvare
2005-01-25 22:35                   ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-01-26  9:55                     ` Jean Delvare
2005-01-26 10:55                       ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-01-26 14:34                         ` Jean Delvare
2005-01-26 16:10                           ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-01-26 19:20                             ` Jean Delvare
2005-01-26 20:21                               ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-01-26 10:14                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-01-26 10:59                       ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-01-26 14:00                         ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-01-26 16:38                           ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-01-26 18:19                             ` Adrian Bunk
2005-01-26 19:27                               ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-01-27 10:20                                 ` Adrian Bunk
2005-01-27 11:53                                   ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-01-26 18:06                         ` Adrian Bunk
2005-01-26 13:12                       ` Russell King
2005-01-26 20:01                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-01-24 18:58     ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Benoit Boissinot
2005-01-24 19:09       ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Adrian Bunk
2005-01-24 19:44     ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 - fix a typo in nfs3proc.c Benoit Boissinot
2005-01-24 20:24     ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 - compile fix Benoit Boissinot
2005-01-24 20:26     ` [PATCH] move common compat ioctls to hash Michael S. Tsirkin
2005-01-25  6:17       ` Andi Kleen
2005-01-26  8:40         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2005-01-25  0:03     ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1: fuse patch needs new libs Sytse Wielinga
2005-01-25  7:31       ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-01-27 15:45       ` Bill Davidsen
2005-01-27 15:56         ` Sytse Wielinga
2005-01-27 16:11           ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-01-27 18:09       ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-01-25  1:01     ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Brice Goglin
2005-01-25  1:30       ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 (AE_AML_NO_OPERAND) Len Brown
2005-01-25 18:41       ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Pavel Machek
2005-01-25 19:10         ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Espen Fjellvær Olsen
2005-01-25 12:53     ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Christoph Hellwig
2005-01-25 14:11       ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-01-25 14:23         ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Christoph Hellwig
2005-01-25 15:24           ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-01-25 15:34             ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2005-01-25 16:04               ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-01-25 18:21                 ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Jörn Engel
2005-01-25 21:17                   ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-01-26  2:20                     ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Jörn Engel
2005-01-25 15:36             ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Paulo Marques
2005-01-25 21:08               ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-01-25 16:11             ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Dmitry Torokhov
2005-01-25 21:14               ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-01-26  4:57                 ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Dmitry Torokhov
2005-01-26  8:25                   ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-01-26 13:46                     ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Dmitry Torokhov
2005-01-26 14:59                       ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-01-26 15:26                         ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Dmitry Torokhov
2005-01-26 15:54                           ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-01-26 16:25                             ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Dmitry Torokhov
2005-01-26 16:46                               ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-01-26 16:55                                 ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Dmitry Torokhov
2005-01-26 17:39                                   ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-01-26 18:26                                     ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Dmitry Torokhov
2005-01-26 20:07                                       ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-01-26 20:22                                         ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Dmitry Torokhov
2005-01-27 17:33                                           ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-01-25 22:42             ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Christoph Hellwig
2005-01-26  8:31               ` Evgeniy Polyakov [this message]
2005-01-26 13:32                 ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Dmitry Torokhov
2005-01-26 14:44                   ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-01-25 19:35       ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Pavel Machek
2005-01-25 19:12     ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Marcos D. Marado Torres
2005-01-25 23:07       ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Barry K. Nathan
2005-01-26  2:40     ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 William Lee Irwin III
2005-01-26  4:44     ` [PATCH] ppc64: fix use kref for device_node refcounting Nathan Lynch
2005-01-27  6:18     ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 William Lee Irwin III
2005-01-27  9:14       ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 William Lee Irwin III

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