From: Nigel Cunningham <ncunningham@linuxmail.org>
To: John Stultz <johnstul@us.ibm.com>
Cc: Tim Bird <tim.bird@am.sony.com>, lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH] new timeofday core subsystem (v. A2)
Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2005 13:23:05 +1100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1107310940.13413.78.camel@desktop.cunninghams> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1107309617.2040.227.camel@cog.beaverton.ibm.com>
Hi.
On Wed, 2005-02-02 at 13:00, john stultz wrote:
> On Tue, 2005-02-01 at 17:48 -0800, Tim Bird wrote:
> > john stultz wrote:
> > > Interesting patch. Indeed, the trade off is just how quickly you want to
> > > boot vs how much drift you gain each suspend/resume cycle. Assuming all
> > > of the clocks are good, your patch could introduce up to 2 seconds of
> > > drift each suspend/resume cycle.
> >
> > If we're not writing to the RTC on suspend, then I believe the drift is
> > capped. For some consumer products, 2 seconds of drift is OK.
> >
> > Nigel, does the RTC get written to, or just read, on suspend?
>
> I'll let Nigel respond, but I don't believe so. The time code only
> writes out to the CMOS every X-minutes if we're synced w/ the NTP
> server.
Yes, just read.
> > Also, I'm worried about the clock appearing to run backwards over a suspend.
> > Unless a suspend/resume cycle took less than 1 second, I don't think this could
> > happen. Is that right?
>
> Well (with my code, the existing code might be slightly different), on
> suspend we read the persistent clock and we accumulate all the time that
> has passed on the timesource. Then on resume we read the persistent
> clock, the delta between persistent clock reads (which cannot be
> negative unless the CMOS runs backwards) is added to the system time and
> a new time interval is started from the current value of the
> timesource.
>
> So, unless something tweaks the CMOS between reads, or the hardware has
> problems, then time should not go backwards.
Sounds good.
Regards,
Nigel
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Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-01-24 22:51 [RFC][PATCH] new timeofday core subsystem (v. A2) john stultz
2005-01-24 22:52 ` [RFC][PATCH] new timeofday arch specific hooks " john stultz
2005-01-24 22:53 ` [RFC][PATCH] new timeofday arch specific timesources " john stultz
2005-01-24 23:29 ` Christoph Lameter
2005-01-25 0:04 ` john stultz
2005-01-25 2:28 ` [RFC][PATCH] new timeofday arch specific hooks " Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-01-25 23:09 ` john stultz
2005-01-25 23:53 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-01-26 0:17 ` john stultz
2005-01-26 0:34 ` Christoph Lameter
2005-01-26 3:29 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-01-26 16:51 ` Christoph Lameter
2005-01-26 3:14 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-01-24 23:24 ` [RFC][PATCH] new timeofday core subsystem " Christoph Lameter
2005-01-25 0:03 ` john stultz
2005-01-25 0:08 ` Christoph Lameter
2005-01-25 0:33 ` john stultz
2005-01-25 1:54 ` Christoph Lameter
2005-01-25 7:50 ` Ulrich Windl
2005-01-25 12:25 ` Tim Schmielau
2005-01-25 7:41 ` Ulrich Windl
2005-01-25 8:17 ` Andi Kleen
2005-01-25 23:18 ` john stultz
2005-02-01 22:06 ` Tim Bird
2005-02-01 22:48 ` john stultz
2005-02-01 23:14 ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-02-01 23:32 ` john stultz
2005-02-02 0:04 ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-02-02 0:27 ` john stultz
2005-02-02 0:36 ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-02-01 23:53 ` Tim Bird
2005-02-02 0:19 ` john stultz
2005-02-02 1:48 ` Tim Bird
2005-02-02 2:00 ` john stultz
2005-02-02 2:23 ` Nigel Cunningham [this message]
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