From: Greg KH <gregkh@suse.de>
To: Bill Nottingham <notting@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-hotplug-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] hotplug-ng 001 release
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 22:46:57 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1108104417.32129.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050211031823.GE29375@nostromo.devel.redhat.com>
On Thu, 2005-02-10 at 22:18 -0500, Bill Nottingham wrote:
> Greg KH (gregkh@suse.de) said:
> > I'd like to announce, yet-another-hotplug based userspace project:
> > linux-ng. This collection of code replaces the existing linux-hotplug
> > package with very tiny, compiled executable programs, instead of the
> > existing bash scripts.
> >
> > It currently provides the following:
> > - a /sbin/hotplug multiplexer. Works identical to the existing
> > bash /sbin/hotplug.
>
> How does this interact with current usage of udevsend as the hotplug
> multiplexer?
First off, not everyone wants to use udev (I know, horrible thought...)
This provides those people a solution to a "I want a tiny /sbin/hotplug"
problem.
Also, udevstart working as /sbin/hotplug is great for keeping things in
order, which is important during normal operation. But during the boot
sequence, the odds of getting out-of-order events, or even remove
events, is somewhat limited. So, this /sbin/hotplug replacement can
work in an initrd/initramfs image when udevstart would be overkill.
And finally, even if you do use udevstart to manager /sbin/hotplug
events, you still need a module autoloader program. This package
provides executables for that problem, if you don't want to (or you
can't) use the existing linux-hotplug scripts. udev will never do the
module loading logic, so there's no duplication in this case.
Hope this helps. I do realize the whole hotplug process is getting a
bit complicated. I hope to write up some good documentation on what all
is involved to help clear up some of the confusion that the combination
of udev, udevsend, udevd, hal, /etc/hotplug.d/, /etc/dev.d/,
and /sbin/hotplug have caused lately.
thanks,
greg k-h
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-02-11 6:46 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-02-11 0:40 [ANNOUNCE] hotplug-ng 001 release Greg KH
2005-02-11 0:52 ` Greg KH
2005-02-11 1:30 ` Kasper Sandberg
2005-02-11 6:41 ` Greg KH
2005-02-11 11:47 ` Kasper Sandberg
2005-02-11 17:06 ` Greg KH
2005-02-12 0:02 ` Kasper Sandberg
2005-02-11 1:07 ` Patrick McFarland
2005-02-11 1:16 ` Greg KH
2005-02-11 20:40 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2005-02-14 4:06 ` Lee Revell
2005-02-14 8:32 ` Paolo Ciarrocchi
2005-02-14 8:51 ` Prakash Punnoor
2005-02-14 23:04 ` Lee Revell
2005-02-14 23:16 ` Greg KH
2005-02-14 23:28 ` Lee Revell
2005-02-15 15:15 ` Stefan Seyfried
2005-02-15 20:12 ` kernel
2005-02-14 23:21 ` Roland Dreier
2005-02-14 23:45 ` [OT] speeding boot process (was Re: [ANNOUNCE] hotplug-ng 001 release) Lee Revell
2005-02-15 0:16 ` Tim Bird
2005-02-15 1:17 ` Lee Revell
2005-02-15 1:45 ` Kyle Moffett
2005-02-15 7:32 ` Gábor Lénárt
2005-02-15 8:34 ` Paolo Ciarrocchi
2005-02-15 9:27 ` [OT] speeding boot process Bernd Petrovitsch
2005-02-15 8:55 ` [OT] speeding boot process (was Re: [ANNOUNCE] hotplug-ng 001 release) Helge Hafting
2005-02-15 9:33 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2005-02-15 13:20 ` Helge Hafting
2005-02-15 13:28 ` Paulo Marques
2005-02-15 13:50 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2005-02-16 1:54 ` Miquel van Smoorenburg
2005-02-15 3:38 ` Jim Crilly
2005-02-15 5:52 ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-02-15 6:15 ` Jim Crilly
2005-02-15 6:39 ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-02-15 19:32 ` Lee Revell
2005-02-17 18:37 ` jlnance
2005-02-17 19:18 ` Chris Larson
2005-02-19 5:53 ` Jim Crilly
2005-02-17 20:00 ` Helge Hafting
2005-02-19 5:56 ` Jim Crilly
2005-02-19 22:47 ` Helge Hafting
2005-02-20 2:09 ` Jim Crilly
2005-02-15 8:33 ` Paolo Ciarrocchi
2005-02-14 23:43 ` [ANNOUNCE] hotplug-ng 001 release Diego Calleja
2005-02-15 19:51 ` Lee Revell
2005-02-15 21:02 ` Diego Calleja
2005-02-15 21:32 ` Chris Friesen
2005-02-15 21:09 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2005-02-15 19:56 ` Optimizing disk-I/O [was Re: [ANNOUNCE] hotplug-ng 001 release] Linas Vepstas
2005-02-15 20:46 ` Adam Goode
2005-02-15 21:11 ` Diego Calleja
2005-02-15 21:21 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2005-02-11 3:18 ` [ANNOUNCE] hotplug-ng 001 release Bill Nottingham
2005-02-11 6:46 ` Greg KH [this message]
2005-02-11 16:19 ` Christian Bornträger
2005-02-11 17:01 ` Greg KH
2005-02-11 19:01 ` Erik Andersen
2005-02-11 19:23 ` Greg KH
2005-02-11 21:37 ` Erik van Konijnenburg
2005-02-11 21:49 ` Greg KH
2005-02-11 22:06 ` Erik van Konijnenburg
2005-02-11 22:13 ` Greg KH
2005-02-12 0:48 ` Ingo Oeser
2005-02-14 22:43 ` Greg KH
2005-02-11 9:52 ` Olivier Galibert
2005-02-11 17:08 ` Greg KH
2005-02-11 20:06 ` Harald Dunkel
2005-02-11 21:01 ` Greg KH
2005-02-12 8:30 ` Harald Dunkel
2005-02-14 22:36 ` Greg KH
2005-02-15 5:39 ` Harald Dunkel
2005-02-15 7:14 ` Greg KH
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2005-02-14 10:29 Michal Rokos
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2005-02-17 6:46 ` Michael Tokarev
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