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From: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
Cc: Olof Johansson <olof@austin.ibm.com>,
	Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	jamie@shareable.org, Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
	David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH/RFC] Futex mmap_sem deadlock
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 09:24:56 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1109111096.5412.152.camel@gaston> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.58.0502221359420.2378@ppc970.osdl.org>

On Tue, 2005-02-22 at 14:10 -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote:

> Oh, well. The reason I hate the rwsem behaviour is exactly because it
> results in this very subtle class of deadlocks. This one case is certainly
> solvable several ways, but do we have other issues somewhere else? Things
> like kobject might be ripe with things like this. The mm semaphore tends
> to be pretty well-behaved - and I'm not sure the same is true of the
> kobject one.

We could detect those tho. When the appropriate DEBUG option is set, by
storing a cpumask in the semaphore we could detect if it's already taken
on this cpu...

> Normal recursive deadlocks are wonderful - most of them show up
> immediately, so assuming you just have enough coverage, you're fine. This
> fairness-related deadlock requires a race to happen.

Unless you consider that taking the read semaphore twice on the same CPU
is always a bug, thus the above stuff would work for catching them at
least more often...
 
> Maybe it would be sufficient to have a debugging version of rwsems that
> just notice recursion?
> 
> 		Linus
-- 
Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>


  reply	other threads:[~2005-02-22 22:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-02-22 19:06 [PATCH/RFC] Futex mmap_sem deadlock Olof Johansson
2005-02-22 19:36 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-02-22 21:16   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-02-22 21:19     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-02-22 21:31     ` Linus Torvalds
2005-02-22 21:42       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-02-22 22:10         ` Linus Torvalds
2005-02-22 22:24           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt [this message]
2005-02-22 23:08           ` Greg KH
2005-02-23 11:24   ` David Howells
2005-02-22 19:55 ` Andrew Morton
2005-02-22 21:07   ` Jamie Lokier
2005-02-22 21:19     ` Olof Johansson
2005-02-22 22:09       ` Jamie Lokier
2005-02-22 21:19     ` Chris Friesen
2005-02-22 21:27       ` Jamie Lokier
2005-02-22 21:30     ` Linus Torvalds
2005-02-22 22:34       ` Jamie Lokier
2005-02-22 22:42         ` Olof Johansson
2005-02-22 23:20           ` Andrew Morton
2005-02-22 23:23             ` Olof Johansson
2005-02-23 11:39       ` David Howells
2005-02-23 16:22         ` Olof Johansson
2005-02-23 18:44           ` David Howells
2005-02-23 14:49       ` Joe Korty
2005-02-23 15:54         ` Linus Torvalds
2005-02-23 17:10           ` Olof Johansson
2005-02-23 17:37             ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-02-23 18:22             ` Jamie Lokier
2005-02-23 18:34               ` Linus Torvalds
2005-02-23 18:49                 ` Jamie Lokier
2005-02-23 19:12                   ` Olof Johansson
2005-02-23 22:00                     ` Linus Torvalds
2005-02-24  0:00                     ` Jamie Lokier
2005-02-23 18:37               ` Olof Johansson
2005-02-22 21:40     ` Andrew Morton
2005-02-22 21:59       ` Linus Torvalds
2005-02-23 11:42       ` David Howells

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