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From: Albert Cahalan <albert@users.sf.net>
To: linux-kernel mailing list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Cc: hch@infradead.org, rml@novell.com, ttb@tentacle.dhs.org,
	torvalds@osdl.org
Subject: Re: [patch] inotify for 2.6.11
Date: Sun, 06 Mar 2005 22:13:51 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1110165231.1967.16.camel@cube> (raw)

Christoph Hellwig writes:
> On Sat, Mar 05, 2005 at 07:40:06PM -0500, Robert Love wrote:
>> On Sun, 2005-03-06 at 00:04 +0000, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
 
>>> The user interface is still bogus.
>>
>> I presume you are talking about the ioctl.  I have tried to engage you
>> and others on what exactly you prefer instead.  I have said that moving
>> to a write interface is fine but I don't see how ut is _any_ better than
>> the ioctl.  Write is less typed, in fact, since we lose the command
>> versus argument delineation.
>> 
>> But if it is a anonymous decision, I'll switch it.  Or take patches. ;-)
>> It isn't a big deal.
>
> See the review I sent.  Write is exactly the right interface for that kind
> of thing.  For comment vs argument either put the number first so we don't
> have the problem of finding a delinator that isn't a valid filename, or
> use '\0' as such.

That's just putrid. You've proposed an interface that
combines the worst of ASCII with the worst of binary.

It is now well-established that ASCII interfaces are
horribly slow. This one will be no exception... but
with the '\0' in there, you have a binary interface.
So, it's an evil hybrid.

An ioctl() is a syscall with scope restricting it to a
single fd. This is a fine user interface, not a bogus one.
(keep 32-on-64 operation in mind to be polite)

If you'd rather have a normal (global) system call though,
that'll do too, likely leading to a bit more type checking
in the glibc-provided headers.

Adding plain old syscalls is rather nice actually.
It's only a pain at first, while waiting for glibc
to catch up.



             reply	other threads:[~2005-03-07  3:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-03-07  3:13 Albert Cahalan [this message]
2005-03-08  1:00 ` [patch] inotify for 2.6.11 Arnd Bergmann
     [not found] <3Q7wT-4HJ-11@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found] ` <3Q7wT-4HJ-13@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]   ` <3Q7wT-4HJ-15@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]     ` <3Q7wT-4HJ-17@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]       ` <3Q7wT-4HJ-19@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]         ` <3Q7wT-4HJ-21@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]           ` <3Q7wT-4HJ-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]             ` <pan.2005.04.08.01.37.42.462474@intel.com>
2005-04-08  1:52               ` Robert Love
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     [not found] ` <3PRs6-89U-15@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]   ` <3PYWC-636-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]     ` <3Q0F6-7Ar-37@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]       ` <3Q4z0-2tA-15@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]         ` <pan.2005.04.06.00.53.44.705260@intel.com>
2005-04-06  1:21           ` Robert Love
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-03-04 18:37 Robert Love
2005-03-04 21:38 ` Timothy R. Chavez
2005-03-04 21:40   ` Robert Love
2005-03-06  0:04 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-03-06  0:40   ` Robert Love
2005-03-07  1:23     ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-03-07  4:33       ` Robert Love
2005-04-05  7:58 ` Prakash Punnoor
2005-04-05 16:12   ` Robert Love
2005-04-05 17:20     ` Prakash Punnoor
2005-04-05 17:35       ` Robert Love
2005-04-05 22:09       ` Robert Love
2005-04-06  3:21       ` Adam Kropelin
2005-04-10 16:16 ` Erik Meitner

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