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From: Albert Cahalan <albert@users.sf.net>
To: Russell King <rmk+lkml@arm.linux.org.uk>
Cc: Christoph Lameter <clameter@sgi.com>,
	Albert Cahalan <albert@users.sourceforge.net>,
	Matt Mackall <mpm@selenic.com>, john stultz <johnstul@us.ibm.com>,
	lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Tim Schmielau <tim@physik3.uni-rostock.de>,
	George Anzinger <george@mvista.com>,
	Ulrich Windl <ulrich.windl@rz.uni-regensburg.de>,
	Dominik Brodowski <linux@dominikbrodowski.de>,
	David Mosberger <davidm@hpl.hp.com>, Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>,
	paulus@samba.org, schwidefsky@de.ibm.com,
	keith maanthey <kmannth@us.ibm.com>,
	Patricia Gaughen <gone@us.ibm.com>,
	Chris McDermott <lcm@us.ibm.com>, Max Asbock <masbock@us.ibm.com>,
	mahuja@us.ibm.com, Nishanth Aravamudan <nacc@us.ibm.com>,
	Darren Hart <darren@dvhart.com>,
	"Darrick J. Wong" <djwong@us.ibm.com>,
	Anton Blanchard <anton@samba.org>,
	donf@us.ibm.com
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH] new timeofday core subsystem (v. A3)
Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 14:44:57 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1111088697.1930.6.camel@cube> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050317165534.B12344@flint.arm.linux.org.uk>

On Thu, 2005-03-17 at 16:55 +0000, Russell King wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 15, 2005 at 10:23:54AM -0500, Albert Cahalan wrote:
> > On Mon, 2005-03-14 at 19:22 -0800, Christoph Lameter wrote:
> > > On Mon, 14 Mar 2005, Albert Cahalan wrote:
> > > 
> > > > When the vsyscall page is created, copy the one needed function
> > > > into it. The kernel is already self-modifying in many places; this
> > > > is nothing new.
> > > 
> > > AFAIK this will only works on ia32 and x86_64 and not definitely not
> > > on ia64. Who knows about the other platforms ....
> > 
> > I'll bet it does work fine on IA-64. If it didn't, you would
> > be unable to load the kernel or load an executable.
> > 
> > I know it works for PowerPC. You'll need an isync instruction
> > of course. You may also want a sync instruction and some code
> > to invalidate the cache.
> > 
> > Setting up the page content should be a 1-time operation done
> > at boot. Check your processor manuals as needed.
> 
> Won't work on ARM.  We have XIP kernels, which prevents the use of
> self-modifying code.

Does the ARM kernel provide a special page of code for
apps to execute? If not, then ARM is irrelevant.

Doesn't ARM always have an MMU? If you have an MMU, then
it is no problem to have one single page of non-XIP code
for this purpose.

Supposing that you do support the vsyscall hack and you don't
have an MMU, you can just place the tiny code fragment on the
stack (or anywhere else) when an exec is performed.

So, as far as I can see, ARM is fully capable of supporting this.



  reply	other threads:[~2005-03-17 20:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-03-12  1:24 [RFC][PATCH] new timeofday core subsystem (v. A3) john stultz
2005-03-12  1:25 ` [RFC][PATCH] new timeofday arch specific hooks " john stultz
2005-03-12  1:26   ` [RFC][PATCH] new timeofday arch specific timesource drivers " john stultz
2005-03-12  5:52   ` [RFC][PATCH] new timeofday arch specific hooks " Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-03-14 18:09     ` john stultz
2005-03-15 22:59   ` Pavel Machek
2005-03-15 23:42     ` john stultz
2005-03-15 23:44       ` Pavel Machek
2005-03-16  1:44         ` john stultz
2005-03-16 10:53           ` Pavel Machek
2005-03-13  0:49 ` [RFC][PATCH] new timeofday core subsystem " Matt Mackall
2005-03-13  1:46   ` Andreas Schwab
2005-03-14 18:42   ` john stultz
2005-03-14 19:29     ` Matt Mackall
2005-03-14 19:43       ` john stultz
2005-03-14 19:51         ` Matt Mackall
2005-03-14 20:04           ` john stultz
2005-03-14 20:27             ` Matt Mackall
2005-03-15  0:01               ` Christoph Lameter
2005-03-15  2:16               ` Albert Cahalan
2005-03-15  3:22                 ` Christoph Lameter
2005-03-15 15:23                   ` Albert Cahalan
2005-03-15 15:52                     ` Chris Friesen
2005-03-17 16:55                     ` Russell King
2005-03-17 19:44                       ` Albert Cahalan [this message]
2005-03-17 20:28                         ` Russell King
2005-03-15  0:28         ` Christoph Lameter
2005-03-15  0:43           ` john stultz
2005-03-14 23:40     ` George Anzinger
2005-03-15  1:11       ` [topic change] jiffies as a time value john stultz
2005-03-15 23:01         ` George Anzinger
2005-03-16  3:57           ` john stultz
2005-03-15  0:07 ` [RFC][PATCH] new timeofday core subsystem (v. A3) Christoph Lameter
2005-03-15  5:37 ` Christoph Lameter
2005-03-15 18:25   ` john stultz
2005-03-15 22:08     ` George Anzinger
2005-03-17  8:15     ` Ulrich Windl
2005-03-15  6:09 ` Christoph Lameter

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