From: Lee Revell <rlrevell@joe-job.com>
To: Diego Calleja <diegocg@gmail.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: dmesg verbosity [was Re: AGP bogosities]
Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 19:53:37 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1111539217.4691.57.camel@mindpipe> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050323013729.0f5cd319.diegocg@gmail.com>
On Wed, 2005-03-23 at 01:37 +0100, Diego Calleja wrote:
> El Mon, 14 Mar 2005 14:07:53 -0500,
> Lee Revell <rlrevell@joe-job.com> escribió:
>
> > I'm really not trolling, but I suspect if we made the boot process less
> > verbose, people would start to wonder more about why Linux takes so much
> > longer than XP to boot.
>
> By the way, Microsoft seems to be claiming that boot time will be reduced to the half
> with Longhorn. While we already know how ms marketing team works, 50% looks
> like a lot. Is there a good place to discuss what could be done in the linuxland to
> improve things? It doesn't looks like a couple of optimizations will be enought...
>
Yup, many people on this list seem unaware but read the XP white papers,
then try booting it side by side with Linux. They put some serious,
serious engineering into that problem and came out with a big win.
Screw Longhorn, we need improve by 50% to catch up to what they can do
NOW.
The solution is fairly well known. Rather than treating the zillions of
disk seeks during the boot process as random unconnected events, you
analyze the I/O done during the boot process, then lay out those disk
blocks optimally based on this information so on the next boot you just
do one big streaming read. The patent side has been discussed and there
seems to be plenty of prior art.
Someone needs to just do it. All the required information is right
there.
Lee
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-03-23 0:54 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 81+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-03-11 1:24 AGP bogosities Paul Mackerras
2005-03-11 2:04 ` Jesse Barnes
2005-03-11 2:11 ` Paul Mackerras
2005-03-11 2:18 ` Jesse Barnes
2005-03-11 2:38 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-03-11 4:02 ` Jesse Barnes
2005-03-11 4:30 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-03-11 16:39 ` Jesse Barnes
2005-03-11 17:59 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2005-03-11 18:04 ` Jesse Barnes
2005-03-12 3:27 ` Mike Werner
2005-03-12 3:58 ` Dave Jones
2005-03-13 3:13 ` Jesse Barnes
2005-03-13 4:08 ` Dave Jones
2005-03-13 4:28 ` Dave Jones
2005-03-11 22:43 ` Paul Mackerras
2005-03-11 23:22 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2005-03-12 0:12 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-03-12 1:34 ` Paul Mackerras
2005-03-11 18:04 ` James Simmons
2005-03-11 18:08 ` Jesse Barnes
2005-03-11 2:04 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-03-11 2:12 ` Dave Jones
2005-03-11 2:18 ` Paul Mackerras
2005-03-11 2:23 ` Dave Jones
2005-03-11 2:40 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-03-11 2:49 ` Dave Jones
2005-03-12 20:49 ` Greg KH
2005-03-11 2:42 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-03-11 22:18 ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2005-03-11 22:26 ` Dave Jones
2005-03-11 22:33 ` Chris Wedgwood
2005-03-11 23:52 ` Gene Heskett
2005-03-11 22:44 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-03-11 23:09 ` Paul Mackerras
2005-03-12 0:06 ` Gene Heskett
2005-03-14 8:17 ` Pavel Machek
2005-03-14 8:27 ` David Lang
2005-03-14 8:37 ` dmesg verbosity [was Re: AGP bogosities] Pavel Machek
2005-03-14 16:55 ` Jesse Barnes
2005-03-14 17:03 ` Pavel Machek
2005-03-14 17:17 ` Dave Jones
2005-03-14 17:18 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-03-14 17:27 ` Jesse Barnes
2005-03-14 17:27 ` Pavel Machek
2005-03-15 20:18 ` Greg Stark
2005-03-14 18:12 ` Diego Calleja
2005-03-14 19:07 ` Lee Revell
2005-03-20 6:44 ` David Lang
2005-03-23 0:37 ` Diego Calleja
2005-03-23 0:53 ` Lee Revell [this message]
2005-03-23 1:13 ` Dave Jones
2005-03-23 1:29 ` Andrew Morton
2005-03-23 8:21 ` Giuseppe Bilotta
2005-03-23 16:14 ` Dave Jones
2005-03-23 16:49 ` Giuseppe Bilotta
2005-03-23 17:17 ` Dave Jones
2005-03-23 14:10 ` Diego Calleja
2005-03-23 8:19 ` Giuseppe Bilotta
2005-03-30 9:45 ` Pavel Machek
2005-03-23 0:53 ` Zan Lynx
2005-03-23 0:55 ` Grant Coady
2005-03-14 21:55 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-03-14 22:08 ` David Lang
2005-03-15 0:02 ` Pavel Machek
2005-03-11 22:42 ` AGP bogosities Dmitry Torokhov
2005-03-11 22:47 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-03-12 17:09 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-03-12 22:26 ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2005-03-12 22:34 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-03-11 2:35 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-03-11 2:43 ` Dave Jones
2005-03-11 2:37 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-03-11 22:11 ` J.A. Magallon
2005-03-11 22:18 ` Dave Jones
2005-03-11 22:46 ` J.A. Magallon
2005-03-11 23:16 ` Martin Schlemmer
2005-03-11 23:17 ` J.A. Magallon
2005-03-11 23:23 ` Martin Schlemmer
2005-03-11 23:24 ` J.A. Magallon
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2005-03-30 10:19 dmesg verbosity [was Re: AGP bogosities] tvrtko.ursulin
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