From: Ram <linuxram@us.ibm.com>
To: johnpol@2ka.mipt.ru
Cc: Jay Lan <jlan@engr.sgi.com>,
Guillaume Thouvenin <guillaume.thouvenin@bull.net>,
Jesse Barnes <jbarnes@engr.sgi.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Erich Focht <efocht@hpce.nec.com>,
Gerrit Huizenga <gh@us.ibm.com>,
elsa-devel <elsa-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: [patch 1/2] fork_connector: add a fork connector
Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 11:00:26 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1111604426.7103.157.camel@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1111557106.23532.65.camel@uganda>
On Tue, 2005-03-22 at 21:51, Evgeniy Polyakov wrote:
> On Wed, 2005-03-23 at 08:01 +0300, Evgeniy Polyakov wrote:
> > On Tue, 2005-03-22 at 15:51 -0800, Jay Lan wrote:
> >
>
> > > I see this issue less a case of bad guys vs. good guys. I see it
> > > as various components doing system related work, but there is
> > > no mechanism of knowing who is on who is off by today's patch. A
> > > service listening to the fork connector can request to turn off
> > > cn_fork_enable on exit and inadquately affect other services/daemons
> > > listening to the same connector. It is not acceptable in my opinion.
> >
> > It is super-user who only is allowed to turn it off and even listen for
> > events,
> > since only super-user is allowed to bind socket to multicast netlink
> > group.
> > Super-user should not be allowed to control it's system?
>
> BTW, super-user can unload fork connector module, and none listener
> will even know about it, it just stops to receive notification.
I see your point. Since the application has to be super-user to turn it
off, and since super-user applications are trusted not to mis-behave,
the current mechanism is relatively safe. I guess its the amount of
checks you put in place, to prevent inadvertent shooting-in-the-foot.
There is nothing one can do if the fork_connector module is yanked out.
However there is something one can do, to prevent any arbitrary
application from shutting down the fork-event stream. I think I can live
with the current mechanism, under the assumption that no fork-event
listner has a legitate reason to shut down the fork-event-stream.
RP
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-03-23 19:00 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-03-17 9:04 [patch 1/2] fork_connector: add a fork connector Guillaume Thouvenin
2005-03-17 16:56 ` Jesse Barnes
2005-03-17 21:38 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-03-17 22:05 ` Jesse Barnes
2005-03-21 8:23 ` Guillaume Thouvenin
2005-03-21 12:48 ` Guillaume Thouvenin
2005-03-21 20:52 ` Ram
2005-03-22 4:36 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-03-22 18:40 ` Ram
2005-03-22 7:07 ` Guillaume Thouvenin
2005-03-22 18:15 ` Jay Lan
2005-03-23 8:15 ` Guillaume Thouvenin
2005-03-22 18:26 ` Ram
2005-03-22 19:22 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-03-22 19:18 ` Ram
2005-03-22 20:25 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-03-22 20:42 ` Ram
2005-03-23 4:52 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-03-22 22:51 ` Jay Lan
2005-03-22 23:51 ` Jay Lan
2005-03-23 5:01 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
[not found] ` <1111557106.23532.65.camel@uganda>
2005-03-23 19:00 ` Ram [this message]
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2005-03-25 10:03 Guillaume Thouvenin
2005-03-25 22:45 ` dean gaudet
2005-03-28 21:42 ` Paul Jackson
2005-03-29 7:04 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-03-29 7:02 ` Greg KH
2005-03-29 7:10 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-03-29 8:49 ` Paul Jackson
2005-03-29 9:17 ` Guillaume Thouvenin
2005-03-29 15:23 ` Paul Jackson
2005-03-29 18:44 ` Jay Lan
2005-03-30 1:05 ` Paul Jackson
2005-03-30 5:39 ` Guillaume Thouvenin
2005-03-30 6:35 ` Paul Jackson
2005-03-30 10:25 ` Herbert Xu
2005-03-30 10:57 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-03-30 11:01 ` Guillaume Thouvenin
2005-04-01 3:26 ` Drew Hess
2005-03-29 10:29 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-03-29 17:03 ` Paul Jackson
2005-03-29 21:09 ` Jay Lan
2005-03-29 22:01 ` Paul Jackson
2005-03-30 14:14 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-03-30 20:56 ` Paul Jackson
2005-03-30 6:06 ` dean gaudet
2005-03-30 6:25 ` Paul Jackson
2005-03-30 6:38 ` Guillaume Thouvenin
2005-03-30 18:11 ` Jay Lan
2005-03-29 8:05 ` Guillaume Thouvenin
2005-03-29 14:47 ` Paul Jackson
2005-03-29 12:51 ` Guillaume Thouvenin
2005-03-29 15:35 ` Paul Jackson
2005-03-30 5:52 ` Guillaume Thouvenin
2005-03-30 6:41 ` Paul Jackson
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