From: Aaron Gyes <floam@sh.nu>
To: Adrian Bunk <bunk@stusta.de>
Cc: "Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <gilbertd@treblig.org>,
Kyle Moffett <mrmacman_g4@mac.com>,
Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Can't use SYSFS for "Proprietry" driver modules !!!.
Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 11:16:54 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1111951014.9831.4.camel@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050327183522.GM4285@stusta.de>
> And then the user want to upgrade the 2.0 kernel that shipped with this
> box although the company that made the hardware went bankrupt some years
> ago.
>
> If the user has the source of the driver, he can port the driver or hire
> someone to port the driver (this "obscure piece of hardware" might also
> be an expensive piece of hardware).
So what? Sure, GPL'd drivers are easier for an end-user in that case.
What does that have to do with law? What about what's better for the
company that made the device? Should NVIDIA be forced to give up their
secrets to all their competitors because some over zealous developers
say so? Should the end-users of the current drivers be forced to lose
out on features such as sysfs and udev compatability?
I love Linux, and a I love that free software has become mildly
successful, but the zealots are hurting both.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-03-27 19:17 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 98+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-03-27 1:15 Can't use SYSFS for "Proprietry" driver modules !!! Aaron Gyes
2005-03-27 1:29 ` Lee Revell
2005-03-27 2:55 ` Kyle Moffett
2005-03-27 8:57 ` Jan Engelhardt
2005-03-27 17:09 ` Willy Tarreau
[not found] ` <1111913399.6297.28.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org>
2005-03-27 17:40 ` Kyle Moffett
2005-03-27 17:52 ` Dave Airlie
2005-03-27 17:58 ` Kyle Moffett
2005-03-27 18:04 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2005-03-27 18:35 ` Adrian Bunk
2005-03-27 18:46 ` Jan Engelhardt
2005-03-27 19:16 ` Aaron Gyes [this message]
2005-03-27 19:30 ` Kyle Moffett
2005-03-28 1:54 ` Horst von Brand
2005-03-28 9:27 ` Jan Engelhardt
2005-03-28 12:04 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-03-28 13:12 ` linux-os
2005-03-28 13:46 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-03-28 14:50 ` Jan Engelhardt
[not found] ` <1112016850.6003.13.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org>
2005-03-28 13:57 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-03-28 23:43 ` Paul Jackson
2005-03-29 0:21 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-03-29 0:56 ` Kyle Moffett
2005-03-29 1:27 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-03-29 12:15 ` linux-os
2005-03-29 12:29 ` Sean
2005-03-30 19:47 ` Rik van Riel
2005-03-30 19:57 ` linux-os
2005-03-31 11:35 ` Sean
2005-03-31 12:34 ` linux-os
2005-03-31 14:20 ` Sean
2005-03-31 22:55 ` Kyle Moffett
2005-03-30 23:30 ` John Pearson
2005-04-03 14:07 ` Clemens Schwaighofer
2005-03-29 16:31 ` Horst von Brand
2005-03-30 14:38 ` Olivier Galibert
2005-03-30 19:49 ` Rik van Riel
2005-03-29 1:22 ` Paul Jackson
2005-03-29 1:31 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-03-28 20:47 ` Horst von Brand
2005-03-27 19:37 ` Adrian Bunk
2005-03-27 21:22 ` Diego Calleja
2005-03-27 23:09 ` Greg KH
2005-03-28 13:14 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2005-03-27 18:12 ` Greg KH
2005-03-29 1:04 ` Aaron Gyes
2005-03-29 3:33 ` Greg KH
2005-03-29 4:03 ` Zan Lynx
2005-03-29 4:44 ` Greg KH
2005-04-03 23:41 ` Mark Lord
2005-04-04 4:01 ` Paul Jackson
2005-04-04 7:15 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-03-29 4:28 ` Aaron Gyes
2005-03-29 4:45 ` Greg KH
2005-03-29 5:01 ` Aaron Gyes
2005-03-29 5:05 ` Greg KH
2005-03-29 5:29 ` Aaron Gyes
2005-03-29 5:37 ` Brian Gerst
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-03-28 2:04 Aaron Gyes
2005-03-28 1:03 Albert Cahalan
2005-03-27 7:21 Manfred Spraul
2005-03-27 5:20 Chuck Ebbert
2005-03-26 17:52 Mark Fortescue
2005-03-26 18:28 ` Greg KH
2005-03-26 20:34 ` Lee Revell
2005-03-26 20:46 ` Jan Engelhardt
2005-03-27 0:48 ` Greg KH
[not found] ` <1111885480.1312.9.camel@mindpipe>
2005-03-27 3:20 ` Greg KH
2005-03-27 3:30 ` Lee Revell
2005-03-27 18:10 ` Greg KH
2005-03-27 18:37 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-03-27 22:01 ` Adrian Bunk
2005-03-27 23:54 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-03-28 1:39 ` Adrian Bunk
2005-03-28 1:50 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-03-28 9:31 ` Jan Engelhardt
2005-03-28 14:45 ` Adrian Bunk
2005-03-27 22:41 ` Dave Airlie
2005-03-28 0:53 ` Chris Wedgwood
2005-03-27 15:04 ` Alan Cox
2005-03-28 3:56 ` Clemens Schwaighofer
2005-03-29 2:37 ` Coywolf Qi Hunt
2005-03-29 5:58 ` Jim Crilly
2005-03-28 16:52 ` Mark Fortescue
2005-03-28 18:38 ` Rik van Riel
2005-03-29 3:36 ` Greg KH
2005-03-29 6:17 ` Kevin Puetz
2005-03-27 12:42 ` Sean
2005-03-27 13:53 ` Wichert Akkerman
2005-03-27 15:06 ` Alan Cox
2005-03-28 13:12 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2005-03-29 3:41 ` Lee Revell
2005-03-29 1:53 ` David Schwartz
2005-03-29 2:06 ` Kyle Moffett
2005-03-29 19:00 ` David Schwartz
2005-03-30 14:15 ` Olivier Galibert
2005-04-02 2:11 ` David Schwartz
2005-03-27 20:50 ` James Courtier-Dutton
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