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From: Albert Cahalan <albert@users.sf.net>
To: linux-kernel mailing list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Cc: greg@kroah.com, rlrevell@joe-job.com, mark@mtfhpc.demon.co.uk
Subject: Re: Can't use SYSFS for "Proprietry" driver modules !!!.
Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 20:03:47 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1111971828.1912.189.camel@cube> (raw)

greg k-h writes:
> On Sat, Mar 26, 2005 at 10:30:20PM -0500, Lee Revell wrote:

>> That's the problem, it's not spelled out explicitly anywhere.
>> That file does not address the issue of whether a driver is
>> a "derived work". This is the part he should talk to a lawyer
>> about, right?
>
> How about the fact that when you load a kernel module, it is
> linked into the main kernel image?  The GPL explicitly states
> what needs to be done for code linked in.

This probably fails. Obviously, it's not over until the courts
say so, but...

First of all, the GPL might not be as infectious as you and RMS
wish it to be. There is a limit to what can be a derived work
in copyright law.

Second of all, module loading is not the same as "linking" in
the traditional sense. The GPL was written before Linux had
kernel modules. Don't be so sure a court would rule as you
would like it to rule.

> Also, realize that you have to use GPL licensed header files
> to build your kernel module...

Um, like the printer cartridges and game cartridges with code
in them? Courts have held that it was OK to copy because it was
needed to implement an interface.

Whatever your lawyer may have said was undoubtably influenced
by your biased attempt to describe the technical issues.

Not that I care for proprietary stuff, being a PowerPC user
myself, but spreading unjustified FUD isn't proper behavior.
Neither is it proper to be marking key driver interfaces as
GPL-only. It's far better to just ignore the proprietary stuff.



             reply	other threads:[~2005-03-28  1:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 98+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-03-28  1:03 Albert Cahalan [this message]
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-03-28  2:04 Can't use SYSFS for "Proprietry" driver modules !!! Aaron Gyes
2005-03-27  7:21 Manfred Spraul
2005-03-27  5:20 Chuck Ebbert
2005-03-27  1:15 Aaron Gyes
2005-03-27  1:29 ` Lee Revell
2005-03-27  2:55 ` Kyle Moffett
2005-03-27  8:57   ` Jan Engelhardt
2005-03-27 17:09     ` Willy Tarreau
     [not found]   ` <1111913399.6297.28.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org>
2005-03-27 17:40     ` Kyle Moffett
2005-03-27 17:52       ` Dave Airlie
2005-03-27 17:58         ` Kyle Moffett
2005-03-27 18:04       ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2005-03-27 18:35         ` Adrian Bunk
2005-03-27 18:46           ` Jan Engelhardt
2005-03-27 19:16           ` Aaron Gyes
2005-03-27 19:30             ` Kyle Moffett
2005-03-28  1:54               ` Horst von Brand
2005-03-28  9:27                 ` Jan Engelhardt
2005-03-28 12:04                 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-03-28 13:12                   ` linux-os
2005-03-28 13:46                     ` Steven Rostedt
2005-03-28 14:50                     ` Jan Engelhardt
     [not found]                   ` <1112016850.6003.13.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org>
2005-03-28 13:57                     ` Steven Rostedt
2005-03-28 23:43                       ` Paul Jackson
2005-03-29  0:21                         ` Steven Rostedt
2005-03-29  0:56                           ` Kyle Moffett
2005-03-29  1:27                             ` Steven Rostedt
2005-03-29 12:15                               ` linux-os
2005-03-29 12:29                                 ` Sean
2005-03-30 19:47                                 ` Rik van Riel
2005-03-30 19:57                                   ` linux-os
2005-03-31 11:35                                     ` Sean
2005-03-31 12:34                                       ` linux-os
2005-03-31 14:20                                         ` Sean
2005-03-31 22:55                                         ` Kyle Moffett
2005-03-30 23:30                                 ` John Pearson
2005-04-03 14:07                                   ` Clemens Schwaighofer
2005-03-29 16:31                             ` Horst von Brand
2005-03-30 14:38                               ` Olivier Galibert
2005-03-30 19:49                                 ` Rik van Riel
2005-03-29  1:22                           ` Paul Jackson
2005-03-29  1:31                             ` Steven Rostedt
2005-03-28 20:47                   ` Horst von Brand
2005-03-27 19:37             ` Adrian Bunk
2005-03-27 21:22             ` Diego Calleja
2005-03-27 23:09             ` Greg KH
2005-03-28 13:14             ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2005-03-27 18:12   ` Greg KH
2005-03-29  1:04     ` Aaron Gyes
2005-03-29  3:33       ` Greg KH
2005-03-29  4:03         ` Zan Lynx
2005-03-29  4:44           ` Greg KH
2005-04-03 23:41           ` Mark Lord
2005-04-04  4:01             ` Paul Jackson
2005-04-04  7:15               ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-03-29  4:28         ` Aaron Gyes
2005-03-29  4:45           ` Greg KH
2005-03-29  5:01             ` Aaron Gyes
2005-03-29  5:05               ` Greg KH
2005-03-29  5:29             ` Aaron Gyes
2005-03-29  5:37               ` Brian Gerst
2005-03-26 17:52 Mark Fortescue
2005-03-26 18:28 ` Greg KH
2005-03-26 20:34   ` Lee Revell
2005-03-26 20:46     ` Jan Engelhardt
2005-03-27  0:48     ` Greg KH
     [not found]       ` <1111885480.1312.9.camel@mindpipe>
2005-03-27  3:20         ` Greg KH
2005-03-27  3:30           ` Lee Revell
2005-03-27 18:10             ` Greg KH
2005-03-27 18:37               ` Steven Rostedt
2005-03-27 22:01                 ` Adrian Bunk
2005-03-27 23:54                   ` Steven Rostedt
2005-03-28  1:39                     ` Adrian Bunk
2005-03-28  1:50                       ` Steven Rostedt
2005-03-28  9:31                       ` Jan Engelhardt
2005-03-28 14:45                         ` Adrian Bunk
2005-03-27 22:41                 ` Dave Airlie
2005-03-28  0:53               ` Chris Wedgwood
2005-03-27 15:04     ` Alan Cox
2005-03-28  3:56       ` Clemens Schwaighofer
2005-03-29  2:37     ` Coywolf Qi Hunt
2005-03-29  5:58       ` Jim Crilly
2005-03-28 16:52   ` Mark Fortescue
2005-03-28 18:38     ` Rik van Riel
2005-03-29  3:36     ` Greg KH
2005-03-29  6:17     ` Kevin Puetz
2005-03-27 12:42 ` Sean
2005-03-27 13:53   ` Wichert Akkerman
2005-03-27 15:06     ` Alan Cox
2005-03-28 13:12       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2005-03-29  3:41         ` Lee Revell
2005-03-29  1:53       ` David Schwartz
2005-03-29  2:06         ` Kyle Moffett
2005-03-29 19:00           ` David Schwartz
2005-03-30 14:15             ` Olivier Galibert
2005-04-02  2:11               ` David Schwartz
2005-03-27 20:50 ` James Courtier-Dutton

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