From: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: Esben Nielsen <simlo@phys.au.dk>, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [patch] Real-Time Preemption, -RT-2.6.12-rc1-V0.7.41-07
Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 11:46:34 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1112201194.3691.128.camel@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050330065011.GA18417@elte.hu>
On Wed, 2005-03-30 at 08:50 +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> * Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org> wrote:
>
> > OK, I'm declaring defeat here. I've been fighting race conditions all
> > day, and it's now 1 in the morning where I live. It looks like this
> > implementation has no other choice but to have the waking up "pending
> > owner" take the wait_list lock once again. How heavy of a overhead is
> > that really?
>
> as i mentioned it before, taking a lock is not a big issue at all. Since
> you have to touch the lock data structure anyway (and all of it fits
> into a single cacheline), it doesnt really matter whether it's atomic
> flag setting/clearing, or raw spinlock based.c0267ad4
>
OK, I've implemented adding the write_lock, but I still have a nasty
race condition, and I finally figured out why!
The damn BKL! Here's the situation I'm having.
Process A grabs BKL then tries to grab another semaphore (say sem X)
But process B has sem X so process A sleeps.
Since semaphores don't have the restriction of saving the BKL, the BKL
gets released from process A.
Process C comes along and grabs the BKL.
Finally B releases sem X and process A becomes the new "pending owner"
and wakes up.
When A schedules in it tries to grab the BKL but blocks. Now it is at
the point where A doesn't actually own either the BKL or sem X.
When C releases the BKL and gives it to A, A is now the pending owner
of both the BKL and sem X.
When this occurs, all hell breaks loose.
I believe I can solve this by making the BKL a special case and not
implement the pending owner at all for it.
> later on, once things are stable and well-understood, we can still
> attempt to micro-optimize it.
>
Heck, I'll make it bloat city till I get it working, and then tone it
down a little :-) And maybe later we can have a better solution for the
BKL.
-- Steve
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-03-30 16:47 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 92+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-03-19 19:16 [patch] Real-Time Preemption, -RT-2.6.12-rc1-V0.7.41-00 Ingo Molnar
2005-03-20 0:24 ` Lee Revell
2005-03-21 15:42 ` K.R. Foley
2005-03-20 1:33 ` Lee Revell
2005-03-20 1:50 ` K.R. Foley
2005-03-20 4:32 ` Lee Revell
2005-03-20 22:40 ` Paul E. McKenney
2005-03-20 17:45 ` Paul E. McKenney
2005-03-21 8:53 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-03-21 9:01 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-03-21 9:06 ` [patch] Real-Time Preemption, -RT-2.6.12-rc1-V0.7.41-01 Ingo Molnar
2005-03-21 23:10 ` Magnus Naeslund(t)
2005-03-22 5:40 ` Paul E. McKenney
2005-03-22 8:50 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-03-22 13:56 ` Magnus Naeslund(t)
2005-03-23 5:46 ` Paul E. McKenney
2005-03-22 5:43 ` Paul E. McKenney
2005-03-22 7:24 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-03-22 9:23 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-03-22 9:32 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-03-22 10:01 ` [patch] Real-Time Preemption, -RT-2.6.12-rc1-V0.7.41-05 Ingo Molnar
2005-03-22 11:28 ` [patch] Real-Time Preemption, -RT-2.6.12-rc1-V0.7.41-07 Ingo Molnar
2005-03-22 15:06 ` K.R. Foley
2005-03-22 18:05 ` Magnus Naeslund(t)
2005-03-23 6:16 ` Paul E. McKenney
2005-03-23 6:33 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-03-23 6:37 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-03-24 6:06 ` Paul E. McKenney
2005-03-23 7:16 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-03-23 7:54 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-03-23 7:58 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-03-23 8:29 ` Peter Zijlstra
2005-03-23 9:03 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-03-24 6:45 ` Paul E. McKenney
2005-03-23 21:46 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-03-24 6:59 ` Paul E. McKenney
2005-03-24 6:38 ` Paul E. McKenney
2005-03-23 9:38 ` Herbert Xu
2005-03-23 9:49 ` Herbert Xu
2005-03-24 6:52 ` Paul E. McKenney
2005-03-24 5:28 ` Paul E. McKenney
2005-03-24 5:34 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-03-24 7:46 ` Paul E. McKenney
2005-03-24 8:31 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-03-24 8:47 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-03-24 10:45 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-03-24 11:39 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-03-24 14:33 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-03-24 17:51 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-03-24 18:17 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-03-24 23:05 ` Esben Nielsen
2005-03-25 6:19 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-03-26 16:31 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-03-26 19:11 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-03-26 16:04 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-03-30 6:31 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-03-30 6:50 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-03-30 16:46 ` Steven Rostedt [this message]
2005-03-30 19:44 ` Esben Nielsen
2005-03-30 19:56 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-03-30 21:39 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-03-30 21:43 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-03-31 11:03 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-03-31 12:03 ` Esben Nielsen
2005-03-31 12:14 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-03-31 13:33 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-03-31 12:22 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-03-31 12:36 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-03-31 12:58 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-03-31 13:28 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-03-31 12:49 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-03-31 14:10 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-03-31 17:41 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-03-31 17:49 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-03-31 18:17 ` Gene Heskett
2005-03-31 21:00 ` [patch] Real-Time Preemption, -RT-2.6.12-rc1-V0.7.41-07 (update) Gene Heskett
2005-03-31 20:22 ` [patch] Real-Time Preemption, -RT-2.6.12-rc1-V0.7.41-07 Steven Rostedt
2005-04-01 0:59 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-04-01 4:43 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-04-01 5:13 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-04-01 5:19 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-04-01 12:27 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-04-07 21:21 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-04-10 10:31 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-04-10 15:06 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-03-24 10:42 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-03-23 9:40 ` Herbert Xu
2005-03-23 9:48 ` Herbert Xu
2005-03-23 5:23 ` [patch] Real-Time Preemption, -RT-2.6.12-rc1-V0.7.41-05 Paul E. McKenney
2005-03-23 4:48 ` [patch] Real-Time Preemption, -RT-2.6.12-rc1-V0.7.41-01 Paul E. McKenney
2005-03-23 6:21 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-03-22 8:59 ` Ingo Molnar
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