From: Natanael Copa <mlists@tanael.org>
To: "Jacek Łuczak" <difrost@pin.if.uz.zgora.pl>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: forkbombing Linux distributions
Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2005 12:00:30 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1112263230.1165.15.camel@nc> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <424AE48C.8000805@pin.if.uz.zgora.pl>
On Wed, 2005-03-30 at 19:40 +0200, Jacek Łuczak wrote:
> Hi
>
> I made some tests and almost all Linux distros brings down while freebsd
> survive!Forkbombing is a big problem but i don't think that something like
>
> max_threads = mempages / (16 * THREAD_SIZE / PAGE_SIZE);
>
> is good solution!!!
> How about add max_user_threads to the kernel? It could be tunable via
> proc filesystem. Limit is set only for users.
> I made a fast:) patch - see below - and test it on 2.6.11,
> 2.6.11ac4,2.6.12rc1...works great!!!New forks are stoped in
> copy_process() before dup_task_struct() and EAGAIN is returned. System
> works without any problems and root can killall -9 forkbomb.
>
I really liked this approach because:
* it is similar to other *nixes. (freebsd, openbsd)
* it is easily tuneable (/proc or systcl)
* it is stupid simple - small chance that things can go wrong.
* this solves *many* things in comparation to possible problems it
causes.
Only thing that could be a problem that I come to think of is that you
cannot raise the limit through /etc/security/limits.conf or similar. Eg.
you migh want all setuid() services/daemons run with a low limit but you
want give user Bob more processes. (I don't know if this is a realistic
situation though)
The default value could be something like:
max_user_threads = max_threads / 2
or:
max_user_threads = max_threads / 4;
With a lower limit to 20 or something, just like max_threads (in case
you try run Linux on 2MiB RAM)
If a fixed value (like 300, 512, 2000) is used then will probably
systems with low amount of RAM be vulerable to the forkbomb attack.
--
Natanael Copa
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-03-31 10:01 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-03-30 17:40 forkbombing Linux distributions Jacek Łuczak
2005-03-31 10:00 ` Natanael Copa [this message]
2005-03-31 17:11 ` Lee Revell
2005-04-05 9:47 ` Natanael Copa
2005-04-05 10:18 ` Jacek Luczak
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-03-28 17:28 Matthieu Castet
2005-03-28 17:56 ` folkert
2005-03-28 19:33 ` Jan Engelhardt
2005-03-28 19:39 ` folkert
2005-03-28 20:35 ` Renate Meijer
2005-03-29 12:31 ` Natanael Copa
2005-03-30 23:46 ` Felipe Alfaro Solana
2005-03-31 6:55 ` Natanael Copa
2005-03-31 7:09 ` Jacek Łuczak
2005-03-22 17:09 Natanael Copa
2005-03-21 3:06 William Beebe
2005-03-21 3:22 ` Dave Jones
2005-03-21 3:26 ` William Beebe
2005-03-21 3:27 ` Peter Chubb
2005-03-21 5:14 ` Grant Coady
2005-03-21 7:41 ` Jan Engelhardt
2005-03-22 11:26 ` Hikaru1
2005-03-22 11:49 ` Jan Engelhardt
[not found] ` <20050322124812.GB18256@roll>
2005-03-22 12:50 ` Hikaru1
2005-03-23 10:56 ` aq
2005-03-23 12:37 ` Natanael Copa
2005-03-23 13:04 ` aq
2005-03-23 13:38 ` Jan Engelhardt
2005-03-23 13:54 ` Natanael Copa
2005-03-23 14:20 ` Måns Rullgård
2005-03-23 14:43 ` Jan Engelhardt
2005-03-23 15:04 ` Natanael Copa
2005-03-24 7:07 ` Jan Engelhardt
2005-03-24 10:05 ` Natanael Copa
2005-03-23 19:38 ` Kyle Moffett
2005-03-23 20:26 ` Natanael Copa
2005-03-23 17:05 ` aq
2005-03-23 18:05 ` Paul Jackson
2005-03-23 18:44 ` aq
2005-03-23 20:15 ` Natanael Copa
2005-03-23 20:48 ` Natanael Copa
2005-03-23 13:45 ` Erik Mouw
2005-03-23 14:03 ` Natanael Copa
2005-03-23 13:53 ` Max Kellermann
2005-03-23 14:23 ` Natanael Copa
2005-03-23 14:27 ` Max Kellermann
2005-03-23 14:44 ` Natanael Copa
2005-03-23 14:52 ` Max Kellermann
2005-03-23 15:18 ` Natanael Copa
2005-03-26 10:37 ` Tux
2005-03-28 8:03 ` Natanael Copa
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