From: Evgeniy Polyakov <johnpol@2ka.mipt.ru>
To: James Morris <jmorris@redhat.com>
Cc: Kay Sievers <kay.sievers@vrfy.org>,
Ian Campbell <ijc@hellion.org.uk>,
Guillaume Thouvenin <guillaume.thouvenin@bull.net>,
Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: connector is missing in 2.6.12-rc2-mm1]
Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2005 10:48:44 +0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1112942924.28858.234.camel@uganda> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Xine.LNX.4.44.0504080152540.24105-100000@thoron.boston.redhat.com>
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On Fri, 2005-04-08 at 01:55 -0400, James Morris wrote:
> On Fri, 8 Apr 2005, Evgeniy Polyakov wrote:
>
> > > > Sure, but seems I need to ask again: What is the exact reason not to implement
> > > > the muticast message multiplexing/subscription part of the connector as a
> > > > generic part of netlink? That would be nice to have and useful for other
> > > > subsystems too as an option to the current broadcast.
> > >
> > > This is a good point, in general, consider generically extending Netlink
> > > itself instead of creating these separate things.
> >
>
> > Connector requires it's own registration technique for
> > 1. hide all transport [netlink] layer from higher protocols which use
> > connector
>
> Why?
User should not know about low-level transport -
it is like socket layer - write only data and do not care about
how it will be delivered.
> > 2. create different group appointment for the given connector's ID
> > [it was different, now new group which is eqal to idx field is appointed
> > to
> > the new callback]
>
> I don't understand.
In the previous versions netlink group was assigned as incremented
counter,
that was not convenient, but now we have 2-way ID, which is better
from users point of view - idx is supposed to be major id, val -
some subsystem of that set.
> > 3. provide more generic set of ids
>
> What do you mean by "ids"?
Each connector message requires pair of u32 ids - idx and val.
Idx is generic system id [which is equal to the appropriate netlink
group
in current implementation], while val is id of some subsytem
inside idx.
Using only group without it's own connector's id will heavily
complex callback register/unregister notification [Jamal's suggested
feature]
for example.
>
> - James
--
Evgeniy Polyakov
Crash is better than data corruption -- Arthur Grabowski
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[not found] <1112859412.18360.31.camel@frecb000711.frec.bull.fr>
2005-04-07 7:53 ` [Fwd: Re: connector is missing in 2.6.12-rc2-mm1] Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-04-07 7:58 ` Andrew Morton
2005-04-07 8:23 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-04-07 8:32 ` Andrew Morton
2005-04-07 10:12 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-04-08 2:59 ` Herbert Xu
2005-04-08 3:33 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-04-08 3:32 ` Herbert Xu
2005-04-08 3:52 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-04-08 3:50 ` Herbert Xu
2005-04-08 4:02 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-04-08 4:02 ` Herbert Xu
2005-04-08 4:21 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-04-08 4:17 ` Herbert Xu
2005-04-08 4:23 ` David S. Miller
2005-04-08 4:55 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-04-08 4:53 ` Herbert Xu
2005-04-08 4:55 ` David S. Miller
2005-04-08 5:11 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-04-08 5:08 ` Herbert Xu
2005-04-08 5:19 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-04-08 6:02 ` David S. Miller
2005-04-08 13:11 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-04-08 6:12 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-04-08 4:22 ` David S. Miller
2005-04-07 8:13 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-04-07 9:12 ` Ian Campbell
2005-04-07 9:52 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-04-07 10:41 ` Kay Sievers
2005-04-07 11:24 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-04-07 14:23 ` Kay Sievers
2005-04-07 14:49 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-04-07 15:47 ` James Morris
2005-04-08 3:41 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-04-08 5:55 ` James Morris
2005-04-08 6:48 ` Evgeniy Polyakov [this message]
2005-04-10 9:52 ` Herbert Xu
2005-04-10 10:32 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-04-10 11:08 ` Kay Sievers
2005-04-10 11:37 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-04-10 11:54 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-04-10 12:10 ` Thomas Graf
2005-04-10 12:15 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-04-10 14:39 ` jamal
2005-04-10 14:56 ` James Morris
2005-04-10 15:08 ` jamal
2005-04-10 19:27 ` Thomas Graf
2005-04-11 5:22 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-04-11 10:45 ` Thomas Graf
2005-04-11 11:19 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
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