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From: Evgeniy Polyakov <johnpol@2ka.mipt.ru>
To: James Morris <jmorris@redhat.com>
Cc: Kay Sievers <kay.sievers@vrfy.org>,
	Ian Campbell <ijc@hellion.org.uk>,
	Guillaume Thouvenin <guillaume.thouvenin@bull.net>,
	Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: connector is missing in 2.6.12-rc2-mm1]
Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2005 10:48:44 +0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1112942924.28858.234.camel@uganda> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Xine.LNX.4.44.0504080152540.24105-100000@thoron.boston.redhat.com>

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On Fri, 2005-04-08 at 01:55 -0400, James Morris wrote:
> On Fri, 8 Apr 2005, Evgeniy Polyakov wrote:
> 
> > > > Sure, but seems I need to ask again: What is the exact reason not to implement
> > > > the muticast message multiplexing/subscription part of the connector as a
> > > > generic part of netlink? That would be nice to have and useful for other
> > > > subsystems too as an option to the current broadcast.
> > > 
> > > This is a good point, in general, consider generically extending Netlink 
> > > itself instead of creating these separate things.
> > 
> 
> > Connector requires it's own registration technique for
> > 1. hide all transport [netlink] layer from higher protocols which use
> > connector
> 
> Why?

User should not know about low-level transport - 
it is like socket layer -  write only data and do not care about
how it will be delivered.

> > 2. create different group appointment for the given connector's ID
> > [it was different, now new group which is eqal to idx field is appointed
> > to 
> > the new callback]
> 
> I don't understand.

In the previous versions netlink group was assigned as incremented
counter, 
that was not convenient, but now we have 2-way ID, which is better
from users point of view - idx is supposed to be major id, val - 
some subsystem of that set.

> > 3. provide more generic set of ids
> 
> What do you mean by "ids"?

Each connector message requires pair of u32 ids - idx and val.
Idx is generic system id [which is equal to the appropriate netlink
group
in current implementation], while val is id of some subsytem
inside idx.

Using only group without it's own connector's id will heavily
complex callback register/unregister notification [Jamal's suggested
feature]
for example.

> 
> - James
-- 
        Evgeniy Polyakov

Crash is better than data corruption -- Arthur Grabowski

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  reply	other threads:[~2005-04-08  6:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <1112859412.18360.31.camel@frecb000711.frec.bull.fr>
2005-04-07  7:53 ` [Fwd: Re: connector is missing in 2.6.12-rc2-mm1] Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-04-07  7:58   ` Andrew Morton
2005-04-07  8:23     ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-04-07  8:32       ` Andrew Morton
2005-04-07 10:12         ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-04-08  2:59           ` Herbert Xu
2005-04-08  3:33             ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-04-08  3:32               ` Herbert Xu
2005-04-08  3:52                 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-04-08  3:50                   ` Herbert Xu
2005-04-08  4:02                     ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-04-08  4:02                       ` Herbert Xu
2005-04-08  4:21                         ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-04-08  4:17                           ` Herbert Xu
2005-04-08  4:23                             ` David S. Miller
2005-04-08  4:55                             ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-04-08  4:53                               ` Herbert Xu
2005-04-08  4:55                                 ` David S. Miller
2005-04-08  5:11                                 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-04-08  5:08                                   ` Herbert Xu
2005-04-08  5:19                                     ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-04-08  6:02                                       ` David S. Miller
2005-04-08 13:11                                         ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-04-08  6:12                                       ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-04-08  4:22                   ` David S. Miller
2005-04-07  8:13   ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-04-07  9:12     ` Ian Campbell
2005-04-07  9:52       ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-04-07 10:41         ` Kay Sievers
2005-04-07 11:24           ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-04-07 14:23             ` Kay Sievers
2005-04-07 14:49               ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-04-07 15:47               ` James Morris
2005-04-08  3:41                 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-04-08  5:55                   ` James Morris
2005-04-08  6:48                     ` Evgeniy Polyakov [this message]
2005-04-10  9:52                       ` Herbert Xu
2005-04-10 10:32                         ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-04-10 11:08                           ` Kay Sievers
2005-04-10 11:37                             ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-04-10 11:54                               ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-04-10 12:10                               ` Thomas Graf
2005-04-10 12:15                                 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-04-10 14:39                                   ` jamal
2005-04-10 14:56                                     ` James Morris
2005-04-10 15:08                                       ` jamal
2005-04-10 19:27                                     ` Thomas Graf
2005-04-11  5:22                                       ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-04-11 10:45                                         ` Thomas Graf
2005-04-11 11:19                                           ` Evgeniy Polyakov

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